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Re: Android Oreo

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Post by devopsproject »

Nullabillity wrote: post #173
0x00000000 wrote: post #69

Android has really been annoying me lately. Maybe I didn't care before but now that I can't root my phone I am forced to deal with it. Still can't disable or customize to stupid "share" menu that puts you one click away from accidentally sending something to a stranger you contacted once on sms or facebook messenger or email. Still can't revoke certain permissions from apps (like vibration). There is zero reason why…

> Maybe I didn't care before but now that I can't root my phone I am forced to deal with it. Why not?

maybe it is a company phone

or

it locked by by his carrier (eg verizon pixel)

or

he wants to use android pay\netflix\other apps that detect root

or

etc.

There are many reasons.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by bitmapbrother »

ocdtrekkie wrote: post #128
pjmlp wrote: post #73

>Google Play Protect: > Working to keep your device and data safe from misbehaving apps by scanning over 50 billion apps per day, even the ones you haven't installed yet! Also known as anti-virus.

Google has rebranded viruses as "PHAs" or "potentially-harmful applications". They don't want anyone to know that Android devices get viruses. ;)

That's because there aren't any. There's a reason they're called viruses on PC's. Perhaps you should look up what it means.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by ghostbrainalpha »

rglover wrote: post #228

As a half-black, half-white man, I find this name incredibly offensive. #halfblacklivesmatter I'll leave it up to you to figure out if I'm serious or not (and yes, I really am mixed so this is plausible).

I think from a certain point of view, "Oreo" could be a great compliment. It is an explicit association with everyone's all time favorite candy snack... (fuck off if it is not yours).

Sincerely,

The Marketing Manager at Nabisco

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by pishpash »

dcomp wrote: post #108

The most interesting part is the way they are planning on tackling fragmentation in O onwards with Project Treble [0] If your device ships with O it should be running an immutable semantically versioned HAL. In essence you should be able to be able to flash AOSP on every new device. No matter what the vendor does. Edit: I can see it now, in the technical specs of each device you will see a list of HAL Versions. The n…

Have we reinvented Windows CE yet?

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by renox »

mixedCase wrote: post #146

Android has been improving so much in the performance department I think the phone that will replace my aging S3 will be... another S3 if I can find one. Seriously. Software has improved so much but the hardware nowadays is trash for my needs at least.

Uh? I replaced my S3 by a S7 and the hardware changes are huge: better CPU obviously but also much better screen (the S3 was unreadable during sunny days..)

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by bitmapbrother »

Artemis2 wrote: post #142
pjmlp wrote: post #73

>Google Play Protect: > Working to keep your device and data safe from misbehaving apps by scanning over 50 billion apps per day, even the ones you haven't installed yet! Also known as anti-virus.

https://www.android.com/security-center/ This page says 8 billion a day, which seems inconsistent. Also how many apps are there on the Play Store to scan that many?

It checks the apps on the device. Considering the amount of Android devices with Google Play Services that number seems consistent.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by [deleted] »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #236
ocdtrekkie wrote: post #121

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Google doesn't want to bear the cost of testing and releasing updates for all of the hardware. Most Android manufacturers barely manage to break even (or outright lose money) trying to sell and support Android hardware. (Samsung makes money, most others don't.) Blaming the OEMs for your security issues is free.

OEM's create their own Android OS by forking it and adding their own customizations. Google cannot modify or update an OS created by another OEM. You've repeatedly been informed of this very simple fact yet you continue to ignore it. The only way for Google to do what Microsoft does is to close source Android and ship the OEM's binaries of the OS image that they cannot modify.

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Re: Android Oreo

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Post by sjuut »

klondike_ wrote: post #11

Project Treble is the most important thing in this release >The biggest change to the foundations of Android to date: a modular architecture that makes it easier and faster for hardware makers to deliver Android updates. With any luck, this will end the huge security/update problem Android has. Right now an update is dependent on the chip manufacturer's drivers, then the OEM adding them to the ROM with their custom "…

It is nice to see the updated Bluetooth 5 stack as a feature of Treble

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by exacube »

on_and_off wrote: post #166
JorgeGT wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The catch is that you can buy an Apple phone everywhere, but for instance Google decided simply to not offer the Pixel in my country. Also, they stopped updating my Nexus 4 long time ago, something that Apple does not with their devices. Hence, I am not "succumbing to Google marketing" again. I have now updated to a Moto, which used to be a Google company. Let's see how long it takes to update...

I would really like to see Google take Oreo as an opportunity to set an example and push the pixel 2 with something like 10 years of support. I am not holding my breath though

or atleast ~4 years like iOS devices get.

Re: Android Oreo

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Post by ufmace »

komali2 wrote: post #143

Going to take advantage of an Android thread here to ask something that has driven me crazy for ~3 years: How do I disable "pop-down" notifications? i.e. facebook messenger, on receiving a message, drops down a little message box from the top with that message. It stays there for about 2 seconds and then disappears... unless further messages in that chat appears. The only way I can disable this is by muting that chat…

Swipe a notification to the side a little bit, and you get a gear icon. Tap that, and you can set that app's max allowed notification importance. You can block all notifications, relegate them to only being visible when you pull down the notification bar, or allow normal icons but not "peeking" notifications.
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