“We will stop updating and distributing the Flash Player at the end of 2020”

Post by Marazan » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:04 PM UTC

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A lot went downhill after Adobe bought Macromedia. Flash use to be light weight, small and incredibly good for displaying vector graphics. You can scale up older Flash content to 1080p and it still looks great. You can't do that with YouTube videos of older flash content. Many animation studios still use Flash .. to make their YouTube videos. It ran on three platforms (Mac, Linux, Win) and was a much better portable…

I remember Flash under Macromedia... I also started disabling it after I found out that you could access the local file system through some hacks. Actually had to do this for storing state on a project (around 2002 iirc). I agree that it's great for 2-d animation, one of the best tools around, and why it's still used for education/training. Flex/Flash Builder also wasn't bad at all, and AS3, while verbose was interes…

Post by reboog711 » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:07 PM UTC

tareqak wrote: post #130

methodover wrote: post #12

I say this every time someone brings up Flash's failure, but ... It's a tragic failure on Adobe's part. The tools for 2D animations and games in Flash are far beyond anything else out there from a creative standpoint. There isn't a product on the market that comes even close. Everything now is too technical, too specialized. There are lots and lots of artists and developers out there who learned Flash's toolset and g…

Why can't they make Flash better and open like other people did with JavaScript? e.g. emScripten, WebAssembly, and WebGL I left this question intentionally vague / and possibly wrong in order to give the person responding some leeway and the opportunity to dispel some myths that people might have about JavaScript technologies and the history of both JavaScript and Flash e.g. me.

Post by cpncrunch » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:09 PM UTC

vecinu wrote: post #185

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What about Adobe Connect? They have been talking about moving to HTML5 for years, but nothing seems to happen. Then recently they announce that if you don't have Flash you can instead download an executable: https://blogs.adobe.com/adobeconnect/2016/02/add-in.html Could this be the end of AC, or will they pull something out of a hat at the last minute?

Connect is not going to die, is my understanding.

Post by reboog711 » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:11 PM UTC

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As others said Adobe is at fault here, same as Microsoft is at fault of not open sourcing Silverlight and now we end up with html5/js mess that was not designed for what is used. Flex4 is really good and after you learn it you get good GUIs that are efficient and that are easy to reuse and much more efficiient then HHTML based GUIs

Having Flash on iOS, even through the browser, would have allowed people to develop apps for iOS without going through Apple. It would also allow trivial Android porting. Flash was not in Apple's strategic interests. It was a risk not supporting Flash in 2007, one that has paid off in Spades. Apple made the right choice for Apple. In retrospect, Macromedia would have needed to open source Flash, and aim it as a viabl…

Post by gothroach » Tue, Jul 25, 2017, 7:15 PM UTC

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VMware vCenter's Web UI by default runs in Flash, even on the newest vCenter 6.5. There's an option for an HTML5 interface, but it's not feature-complete and is far buggier and laggier than the already buggy Flash client. ESXi 6.5's web interface is HTML5, and it appears to have a lot of common codebase with vCenter's HTML5 interface, but is far more mature and accessible. I hope that this gives VMware the kick in th…

Be nice if they just went back to desktop client; it was better in every way.