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Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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Post by throwaway71958 »

nyolfen wrote: post #176
throwaway71958 wrote: post #93

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"The peoples" is unlikely. "-ing" after most verbs is unlikely. "the" is unlikely before "Freedom Caucus" and "NSC". There's no "the" in Russian, and ESL speakers often omit it, or put it where it doesn't really belong. The word "caucus" in itself is unlikely: I've never even heard of it before I moved to the US, it's not in common use abroad. "Whose" is unlikely. "To destroying" is very unlikely. "Will be happening"…

'freedom caucus' is a proper noun referring to an organization, they wouldn't need to know the meaning in order to use it. also you seem to ignore the possibility of using some machine translation assistance (eg for short phrases or sentences) which could account both for irregularities and correct verb conjugations.

It's a proper noun that describes an obscure sub-structure of US Congress. Now, quickly, name some sub-structures of the Russian Duma for us, and tell us what Putin thinks about them.

Re: Snowden: NSA just lost control of its Top Secret arsenal of digital weapons

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Post by PeCaN »

doktrin wrote: post #121
atemerev wrote: post #103

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Right. However, things like "caucus" and "SCOTUS" are really unlikely to be written by a Russian, on any English knowledge level. We do make mistakes, but our mistakes are different. In this text, there are too few common mistakes, and too many strange things.

> things like "caucus" and "SCOTUS" are really unlikely to be written by a Russian, on any English knowledge level What a weird thing to say. Even the most native of idioms can be learned, and there are plenty of fully bi-tri lingual people in the world. Mining the text for cultural clues is a fool's errand.

> Even the most native of idioms can be learned

the parent's point though was that there's a mismatch between the level of idioms used and the broken grammar used (which is, imo, pretty obviously intentionally obfuscated; it's just… not how a non-native speaker would write it, esp russian)

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Post by jessaustin »

doktrin wrote: post #206
jessaustin wrote: post #187

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Now that we know the "tools used" "proof" is worthless because CIA uses those tools too, is there anything else?

What does that have to do with my point about inferring identity based on textual clues in this blog post?

'doktrin perhaps you have confused this subthread with a different one; it would be understandable since you've seen fit to post on this page sixteen times already. (Bonus points: you've used the phrase "paid shills" twice!) Unless you're willing to admit now that you are the DNC staffer who leaked all their dirty laundry to Wikileaks, you've got to admit that this tawdry hermeneutical argument no longer suffices to prove The Russians Did It.

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Post by pstuart »

redahs wrote: post #122
cyphunk wrote: post #110

A good time to remember the official US Intelligence Community statement and policy/lie on 0days, as given post-heartbleed: When Federal agencies discover a new vulnerability in commercial and open source software – a so-called “Zero day” vulnerability because the developers of the vulnerable software have had zero days to fix it – it is in the national interest to responsibly disclose the vulnerability rather than t…

Could this problem be fixed by splitting the NSA into two competing agencies, one handling offensive signals intelligence, and one handling cryptography research and disclosures? Intuitively it seems when the same agency performs both roles it creates a conflict of interest and bias against disclosure.

How about a third agency that focuses on securing our digital infrastructure?

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Post by wyldfire »

jaxn wrote: post #220
PhasmaFelis wrote: post #125

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I've wondered how "zero day" mutated from its original meaning of "pirated software cracked and released on the day of its commercial release" to "a software vulnerability of which the software's maintainers are not yet aware". There doesn't seem to be any connection aside from illicit cracking.

Zero day has been used in this context for at least 15 years and means that the vulnerability has been publicly known for zero days, or rather it is an undisclosed vulnerability.

The nomenclature of pirated "zero day" cracked (or usually just copied) software releases is at least twenty five years old, but likely older.

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Post by coldtea »

oculusthrift wrote: post #226
coldtea wrote: post #211

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> remember that 1000s of paid russians were used to interrupt our election on sites like reddit. Or so a 2017 version of the "red scare" goes, so that the military industrial complex can sell more weapons and more "safety", and the fingers can keep being pointed at some enemy or another. That way their budgets get approved, some poor countries pay the toll (who cares anyway), and they might even be able to plunder th…

ahhh..... whataboutism[0]. classic russian tactic. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Confirmation bias: classical lalala-hands-in-the-ears-denial tactic. Also, not a Russian. Tinfoil much? Besides I'm not the one who opened an account here a mere few months ago. I'm a regular on HN for 5+ years.

Now, regarding the accusation of "whataboutism", I found that it's the stupidest of knee-jerk responses. It makes looking at all sides look like some kind of error.

"Yeah, my side can kill, invade, meddle with others, bully, strong-arm, etc as it sees fit. But if your side does 1/10th of those things even when its justified, or even if I just accuse you falsely of doing them and you dare to point out that it's actually my side doing those things and worse, then I call out your whataboutism".

Instead of putting things into perspective, examining their history, the causes, the role of different players, people point the finger to a single direction (seldom to their own side's and rarely to the biggest offender), and when called out on it and get reminded of the greater state of affairs they go "oh, that's whataboutism".

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Post by wyldfire »

coldtea wrote: post #201
1337biz wrote: post #162

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Full circle irony: I find the argument of the dubious throwaway more beliveable than OP.

Count us both. The BS one hears today (against Russia, etc) are the "WMD"s of 2017. There's a single superpower the last 2+ decades (Russia is no USSR) and it has a long history of pushing for its "interests" all over the world, starting wars, grabbing resources, overthrowing governments, supporting all kinds of lunatics and dictators. And covering the whole damage they do with holier than though finger pointing, mad…

I can't say I agree with all of the foreign policy decisions made on my behalf in the last few decades. But Russia reaps what it sows. And it sows corruption much worse than ours.

Also it's remarkably unfair for you to cherry pick our foreign policy misdeeds while leaving out all of the good we've done over that same time frame.

I wish we cultivated a better interest in world news and culture here. Our natural borders play some (small) role in our isolation. But, yes, the population at large also ignores much of the global news.

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Post by wyldfire »

Avenger42 wrote: post #170
jwilk wrote: post #109

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No, in Polish adjectives normally go before nouns, just like in English.

I assumed he was facetiously referring to Reverse Polish Notation[1]. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reverse_Polish_notation

No, it seems to me more like Polish is actually one of his daughter's native languages.

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Post by strictnein »

wyldfire wrote: post #246
krapp wrote: post #216

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You can actually, barely see it.

Just not from the mansion in Juneau

Good thing then that it's from an SNL skit and not something Palin actually said. This seems lost on many, many people.
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