When I hear Atlassian, I hear Jira and we all 'love' Jira. I don't know, I see how this is good for Atlassian, not really how it is good for me.
Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M
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#242Earlier quoted context omitted.
JIRA + Bitbucket (and now + Trello) is a very effective competitor to Github among enterprise companies. Github's issue tracker sort of sucks and this hurts it tremendously -- I know as I live with that shitty issue tracker in an enterprise situation.
Out of curiosity, what are the things you don't like with Github issue tracker?
Personally (and I'm not sure if JIRA fixes this, but Trello gets around it), the biggest issue I have is that Github treats repositories as the only possible context. Say a bug comes in that covers multiple repositories (e.g.: requires a mobile app fix and a backend fix), then you need to create two completely seperate issues and remember to link them manually. This breaks down very quickly. I would much rather issues to optionally exist at an organisation level, with per-repository sub issues stemming from that organisation-level issue.
It also means that someone submitting bugs, say from customer support, must try and figure out where the issue is in order to log it. It's a huge hassle and most just give up and ping an engineer on Slack which is incredibly inefficient.
Trello gets around this by letting you create a "master" issue and link to the individual repository issues. It means engineering can have a bug inbox and triage from there. Still a huge pain and not ideal.
Github also has the "Projects" feature, but it is useless IMO due to the above issue - I wish projects would work at an organisation level.
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#243Kinda makes me happy for trello's founders. Have been using it as a reference site for HTML and CSS development. I really liked those buttons! :D I hope atlassin doesn't make it bloated and shitty. Hope it stays good for the small teams as it has ever been!
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#244Great acquisition for Atlassian and I'm super pumped for the Trello team. The people here who are concerned that the culture will change are ill informed and likely haven't gone through an acquisition themselves. This makes perfect sense and look forward to seeing what's next for both companies.
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#245I am really glad I never started using Trello for my task organization. It lacked the basic act of marking tasks as Done. I needed to manually drag the done tasks to a 'Done' board. On that note, my hunt for good task organization app led me to Todoist! It's awesome! It has great web and Android apps and great API which I intend to hack at some point to create an emacs interface for it. So glad that Todoist wasn't bo…
For me the best todolist would be like a tree where you would be able to divide tasks into sub tasks and see every thing in one screen.
I haven't been able to find such app so as for now I'm stuck with pen and paper
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#246Earlier quoted context omitted.
No it's really not. "Damning with faint praise" is when, say, you've just effusively praised something else, and then say that the alternative is pretty good. The "least-worst option" means it's not good, but all the alternatives are terrible. That's not damning.
Googling around, the definition that comes up is: > Damning with faint praise is an English idiom for words that effectively condemn by seeming to offer praise which is too moderate or marginal to be considered praise at all. Which seems about right to me. It's like writing an employee a letter of reference, and only saying that they're very punctual - meaning that there's nothing else good about them, other than the…
It doesn't apply because calling JIRA the least-worse simply isn't praise at all, it's a criticism of all JIRA alternatives.
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#247Anyone know a good simple trello competitor that I can import my trello boards to really quick.
We've been using Meistertask and have liked it a lot so far.
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#248This makes sense. Atlassian is good at making money from its services and it is increasing its overall ecosystem here. Github moves really slow in comparison. I guess Github is more focused, but there are a lot of contrasts between Github and Atlassian, and in terms of making money I think Atlassian is doing a lot better. Has Github acquired anything significant? Github should have acquired Zenhub (which is Trello in…
Thats about all Atlassian is good at. HipChat has become an abomination of a client across Windows and Mac. Every new release is about fixing functionality they broke with the previous release and even then it still isn't fixed.
Logging in from multiple places has always been terrible. I'll be logged in on Mac and available but randomly get emails as if I'm offline. I'll be online on my phone and get e-mails. I wan't emails of messages when I'm actually offline and not logged in but HipChat doesn't seem to care and emails me anyways sometimes. The option to turn off email notifications isn't very configurable either. Its off or on.
Look at the release notes for windows and mac and search for reconnection. Just about every release has a fix for reconnecting going back to 2014.
https://www.hipchat.com/release_notes/mac https://www.hipchat.com/release_notes/windows
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#249Re: Atlassian acquires Trello for $425M
#250Earlier quoted context omitted.
Funny how much opinions can differ. I've used them both professionally and I think Trello scales poorly above 5-10 people while Jira is the least-worst option for running a project at any team size.
My experience with Jira is that it depends very much on the managers and executive team who set it up and create the precedents on how to use it. Jira is so customizable and has so many features that it can be made into a sort of bureaucratic prison that's actively counter-productive for everyone except higher-level managers who just use it to generate countless reports. In the worst case, Jira can be used to institu…
True. I had to setup Jira for our team and must say it was an awful experience. Too many options, hidden in unintuitive places, awful (too verbose) documentation... Everything is just so difficult. Horrible UX. But it was still the best on-premise solution I could find. Trello on the other side is a delight to both setup and use.
I think buying Trello was great move for Atlassian. No way could Jira compete with them in the long run. And now they are even safe(r) from new Trello-like competitors. Brilliant move for Atlassian. Too bad for us users... :(