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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by op00to »

josteink wrote: post #140
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

> They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time. It feels light years ahead of the super-heavy aluminium-nonsense Apple is trying to peddle. Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press.

No, it doesn't. I had gen 1, gen 2, gen 3 X1 carbons. Each was flimsy crap. Each was unrepairable. The gen3 literally fell apart when the screen needed to be replaced due to a manufacturing defect. This flimsy build is not a problem with my Apple laptops.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by [deleted] »

josteink wrote: post #140
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

> They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time. It feels light years ahead of the super-heavy aluminium-nonsense Apple is trying to peddle. Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press.

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Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by brudgers »

mamon wrote: post #106
brudgers wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thinkpads are still reliable for Ubuntu, but I went with a Dell for the 4k IGZO display, four DIMMS, and 1.8 teraflops of GPU. Battery is not great. It's not light. The keyboard is ok, but not a Thinkpad...but it does have a track-stick.

>> Dell for the 4k IGZO display, four DIMMS, and 1.8 teraflops of GPU Which Dell model is that? Precision 5510?

m7510. I bought it off the Dell Outlet. Same three year NBD on-site warranty, lower price, a green sticker on the bottom saying it's refurbished.

http://www.dell.com/learn/us/en/22/campaigns/outlet

It's the third time I've bought a machine from the outlet and I've always been satisfied. I had spec'd out a base m7510 with Ubuntu, 70% gamut touchscreen, larger battery, and lighted keyboard. This one came up with the IGZ0, Windows 10, 4GB Quadro 2000, i7-6820HQ instead and was a bit less money. The base unit was still a good machine.

The 5510's are more Macbook like...slimmer, limited expansion, less powerful CPU's and graphics cards at the top end of the line (slim light cases limit thermal capacity).

The 7000 series are heavier and support ECC RAM and have four DIMM slots and can accomodate a conventional SATA drive plus an M42 x 80. For me heavy is relative. My first three laptops were 7 pounds, 6.5 pounds, and 8.5 pounds. The first one was light, the second was about a pound over light, and the third was svelte for a 17".

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by awqrre »

jsz0 wrote: post #170
josteink wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy The Carbon X1 is made from carbon fiber. It super-robust and light-weight at the same time. It feels light years ahead of the super-heavy aluminium-nonsense Apple is trying to peddle. Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press.

> Count me happy my laptop doesn't double as a bench-press. ThinkPad X1 Carbon: Starting at 2.6 lbs (1209 g) MacBook Pro 13: Weight: 3.02 pounds (1.37 kg)

that was a unit mess...

ThinkPad X1 Carbon: 2.51 lbs (1.14 kg)

MacBook Pro 13 ......: 3.02 lbs (1.37 kg)

or about 17% lighter

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by smnplk »

noobermin wrote: post #137
iopuy wrote: post #117

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Were you wearing gloves when placing it on your lap?

I'm overthinking this, but it doesn't seem odd. Us in colder climates have our hands adjusted to cold (since they are usually exposed) while areas closer to our chest and groin (such as inner thighs) not as adapted.

I love the feeling of cold MBA on my thighs :) Wim Hof would probably laugh at your comment ;)

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by adamweld »

NikolaNovak wrote: post #224
Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

Errr.... T530 had titanium cover and endoskeleton chassis. My friend routinely walks over his while it's powered on, as a demonstration. How is it possibly an example of a "plastic, flimsy, bendy" laptop? Yes it has screw holes and grills... it's a working-person's laptop :). The new ones don't, because they're becoming more like apple - which means I cannot as easily replace battery, hard drive, memory, etc as I do…

Yes, this is Hacker news. Since when did having screws accessible to the user become a bad thing?

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by corn13read »

Waterluvian wrote: post #22

I want to be excited by a good non-Apple laptop. But they're all just so terribly designed. They're always some sort of plastic, feel flimsy and bendy, have grills and screw holes and uneven surfaces and stickers everywhere. I had a T530 for a few years at my first job and just hated it. It had fantastic specs but it felt awful and unreliable and like I had to babysit it. I got a 2015 MBP to replace it after IT damag…

You've clearly never used a T series or X1 Carbon before

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by mw42 »

_JamesA_ wrote: post #214
extrapickles wrote: post #85

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The Razer Blade has similar unibody metal chassis as Apple laptops and is not coated in stickers. I have the Blade Stealth and its just as sturdy and sleek as the Apple equivalent.

I never hear anyone mention the Razer Blade's and yet they seem to be the best looking and spec'd non-Apple notebooks by far. They are almost too good to be true. What's the catch? Have you had any issues running Linux on them?

I upgraded to a Razer Blade from a 2013 macbook.

Performance is great.

It is very well built, I would say on almost on par with a Mac, except for thin grills covering the cooling fans on the bottom. Grabbing the laptop in the wrong spot can easily push the grills up against the fan.

Battery life is terrible. Lucky to get 4-5 hours running a nothing but a browser and ssh client. (On windows 10. I haven't tried, but remember reading that power management on linux is even worse)

The trackpad gestures are not as accurate as on a Mac. I don't know how much of that is Windows vs the hardware.

Cooling fans are always on, and they are kind of loud even at low rpm. Not noticeable in a noisy office environment, but annoying in a quiet setting. The black chassis is a fingerprint magnet like no other laptop I've seen. The lit green logo on the lid is a bit obnoxious, and would not fit in at a very corporate environment. The actual display size is somewhat smaller than that of many similarly sized notebooks.

I'm okay with the trade offs (though the battery hurts...) but its definitely not a clear-cut winner compared to the competition.

Edit: the Blade Stealth may fare a little better battery wise, but even it doesn't have a stellar battery life.

Re: ThinkPad X1 Carbon

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Post by zem »

dgl wrote: post #13

They really should write that it has USB-C charging in bigger letters (see http://www3.lenovo.com/medias/ww-lenovo-laptop-thinkpad-x1-c... for the evidence).

nice! hope that comes to the next x1 yoga model too
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