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Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by philliphaydon »

hboon wrote: post #227
philliphaydon wrote: post #208

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We don't have Microsoft stores here in Asia so I really cannot compare. But I absolutely hate going into Apple or iStudio stores. They try to upsell and add all sorts of crap. When I bought my 12" Macbook I ended up leaving the store and buying it online. I just went in to the store today to buy a case for my new iPhone 7 and I wanted a flip case just so i didn't need a screen protector and the guy kept insisting on…

Let me guess. Singapore? Good news is, an Apple store is coming.

Yup Singapore. Had similar experience in Sydney when I lived there too.

I can't deny tho that both Apple and iStudio are great in regards to support. Something doesn't work, take it in, they sort it out ASAP.

Also: There's a real Apple store coming here?

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by mattlevan »

bobjordan wrote: post #195

I've been on Macbook pros since 2010, had a few of them by now, my latest is a retina 2013 with an i7, 8gb ram, 500GB hard drive. When surface book came out last year I bought one, with i7, 16GB ram, dedicated video card, 500GB hard drive. I really fell in love with drawing on my surface book with sketchbook pro, also great is fact that solidworks runs well on it, and finally windows 10 is much improved. Throw in the…

If anything, it sure is nice to see that Microsoft might actually begin to become a real Apple competitor again. Competition is good!

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by metafunctor »

revelation wrote: post #215
jstsch wrote: post #130

Just to chime in. Since the displeased are always loud. I got my maxed out TouchBar MBP 15" about two weeks ago and I'm really happy with it. It replaces a Mid-2010 MBP 17". It's light, fast and has a gorgeous screen. After a week, I even prefer the new thin keyboard versus the old. My external keyboard feels like trudging through mud. No trouble hitting the ESC-key on the touch bar. The context awareness of it is ac…

This is about the Surface, I'm not sure what motivates you to post an impromptu review of a MBP here.

Did you read the article? This is about how Microsoft is saying the new MBP is so bad that users are switching to Surface en masse. It's entirely relevant to bring up the point that not everyone hates the new MBP.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by darpa_escapee »

rcavezza wrote: post #182
TruthSHIFT wrote: post #170

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm glad you're having a good experience with the new MBP. However, I wouldn't plug a $.70 adapter into a $3000 computer. Maybe you should splurge and spend $10 on the Apple adapter.

Although price can sometimes be an indicator of quality, it doesn't necessarily mean quality. I think this is especially true when the alternative higher priced product has a lot of "Brand Value" that can be attributed to the higher price.

You'd be appalled at what gets sold online as acceptable adapters and chargers.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by hboon »

philliphaydon wrote: post #241
hboon wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Let me guess. Singapore? Good news is, an Apple store is coming.

Yup Singapore. Had similar experience in Sydney when I lived there too. I can't deny tho that both Apple and iStudio are great in regards to support. Something doesn't work, take it in, they sort it out ASAP. Also: There's a real Apple store coming here?

Unless there's specific reasons (like credit card extended warranty), it's probably best to avoid those chains like iStudio. Third party support via AppleCare has been great though.

> Also: There's a real Apple store coming here?

Yes, opposite Paragon.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by DanBC »

mikestew wrote: post #230
rcavezza wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Although price can sometimes be an indicator of quality, it doesn't necessarily mean quality. I think this is especially true when the alternative higher priced product has a lot of "Brand Value" that can be attributed to the higher price.

In the case of Apple-branded adapters, it has been demonstrated time and again that they actually put some thought into their adapters so that your device or house do not catch on fire. Not so much with the $0.70 ones. Maybe, likely not, but hey, you saved $9.70 that you can apply to your home owners insurance premium!

Are there any Apple brand adaptors available for $10.40?

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by st3v3r »

bhauer wrote: post #204
josefresco wrote: post #177

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Sounds like you were looking for excuse to go back to Apple.

Agreed. Though I have no idea what motivates other people, and opinions vary, so I can't say the decision to go back to Apple is wrong. I am surprised that for all of the online ordering we do in today's society, so many people use bricks-and-mortar stores for their high-tech purchases. I had my Surface Book shipped to my doorstep like most anything else I purchase in my life. I find it unpleasant to go into Apple st…

"I am surprised that for all of the online ordering we do in today's society, so many people use bricks-and-mortar stores for their high-tech purchases."

Many tech products, like laptops, are quite personal. You're going to be staring at this thing for several hours a day, almost every day. It makes sense that most people would want to see it in person and try it out. And, at least regarding the Apple Store (and presumably the Microsoft store; I haven't checked), it's not cheaper to buy online than it is in the store.

"In my experience, the Surface Book trackpad is as good as any Mac trackpad. I'd say both trackpads are about 80%, if a good mouse is 100%."

I cannot agree, but I have a feeling that this is one of those things like Pepsi vs Coke: There's no objective measurement, so no one can say they're right or wrong.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by xenihn »

I was set on getting a new 15" MBP to replace my late 2013 model, and I put aside just over $2k for one. Sadly, after prices came out, I would have been spending $3k minimum after taxes for what I wanted. I looked into buying a used 2014 or 2015 instead.

When I looked into the actual spec difference, the biggest upgrade for me would have been going from 8GB to 16GB of RAM, since the integrated GPU (Iris Pro) is the same, and the CPU performance upgrade is minimal. The idea of spending $1100ish on a used MBP and then having to sell my current laptop (probably spending $500-600 total) just to upgrade my RAM was so offputting, so I held off.

I ended up building a mini-ITX hackintosh instead. It turned out great -- the new UEFI method is so much better than the old way, since you can update with no risk of breaking your drivers, and upgrade without a full reinstall. I also just found out we're all getting loaded 2016 15" MBPs at work, so I'm glad I didn't go through with either of my first two considerations.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by mikesickler »

bitmapbrother wrote: post #219
akulbe wrote: post #143

I tried to like it. I have my Surface Book sitting here next to me. Windows 10 is much better than previous versions, and I like the direction MS seems to be moving. That said, I feel like in spite of how nice a machine the Surface Book is, QA is still sorely lacking on Windows 10. "Sleep of Death" (google it) and working in *nix 99.99% of the time is what killed it for me. Trying to make the workflow work, it's just…

Did they ever solve that "very hard computer science problem" with power management on the Surface Book? I don't think I've ever heard of a more condescending excuse to give to your customers than that.

Just my experience, but a relatively recent (late summer?) OS update must have fixed it. Since then, I haven't had any problems with my SP4 not waking from sleep.

Re: Microsoft: more people are switching from Macs to Surface than ever before

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Post by youdontknowtho »

johnernaut wrote: post #115

I'm one of the people that switched from a MacBook Pro to the new Surface Book. The ENTIRE experience was dreadful for me. The day I went into the Microsoft store to purchase it (Black Friday), their credit card system was down, so I had to wait around for nearly 2 hours until they finally figured things out. That wouldn't typically upset me, but my brother-in-law went through something similar just 2 weeks prior. As…

I heard that people were having terrible times with the surface book. its a shame. wonderful concept.
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