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Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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For people mourning the loss of rethinkDB, and who are interested in alternative document based NoSQL DBs under development, please checkout ArangoDB. It's my favorite NoSQL database. I have no affiliation with them.

Beautiful query language called AQL, and graphing support (multi-model) baked in.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Their chance of surviving would have increased dramatically if users could install rethinkdb as addon on Heroku.

Availability as a service was an issue, the compose deal did not work well for me, as my stuff was hosted on heroku.

Anyway, rethinkdb is probably the most awesome database I've tried.

https://github.com/birkir/react-starter-kit-rdb

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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Per Crunchbase:

    Dec, 2013	$8M / Series A2
    Sep, 2011	$3M / Series A
    Apr, 2010	$1.2M / Seed
    Jun, 2009	undisclosed amount / Seed
Did the company have any revenue or was that the only money the company had to run on?

Assuming that info is correct, that's pretty slim for building a "hard tech" type of company. Building a database (from scratch no less) is a lot of up front work. Even after it's built you need to convince tech people to want to use it, convince their bosses to let them use it, and even then, hire sales people to sell support contracts.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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RethinkDB is one of the developer tools that we at Stripe most looked up to.[1] The team had so many good ideas and rigorous, creative thoughts around what a database could be and how it should work. I'm really bummed that it didn't work out for them and have enormous respect for the tenacity of their effort. I'm also excited to have them join us here at Stripe. As we've gotten to know Mike, Slava, and the other Reth…

"we can build some excellent products together in the future."

So in other words you're not going to continue to work on Horizon and Rethink, or at least if you do they are secondary priorities? Ugh.

Slava did the right thing; his first responsibility is to his employees, not his users, but this really sucks for us users.

For us, it would probably have been better to shut down abruptly. The community would have scrambled. Some employees would find work in companies that used RethinkDB, and maintenance would have continued the same way that Apache was developed ~20 years ago. Some would have grabbed support contracts from users. And some would have moved on.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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> KDB knocks the socks off everything else ...but the licence is 250k dollars a year so big fail for startups.

That's the salary of a single employee. Surely they can afford a database on the payroll.

Many early stage startups can't afford even a single salary. By the time enough cash is on the table to consider those kind of purchasing decisions, the initial round of architecture decisions have typically been made, and been cemented into the initial version of the software.

E.g. I've worked on more than one startup where the first angel investment wasn't on the table before 6-12 months into development, and where that first round in some cases was below $250k

On top of that you also have the issue of finding someone that knows it, and the associated staffing risk that comes with that (yes, I'm sure you can always find someone, but at what price? there are place I can go where I couldn't throw a stone in any direction without hitting someone that "knows" Postgres or MySQL or both sufficiently well to be an acceptable tradeoff)

In many startups the tech choices end up being made not just based on what fits and what is affordable, but also based on what you can find affordable people to work with (including e.g. co-founders or other people willing to do initial work for equity) - sometimes that can lead to niche tech getting used. But far more often it means picking from a small set of the most common alternatives.

Re: RethinkDB is shutting down

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I have always wondered why there isn't a tech company that just does kick ass documentation for companies. Seems like a small group of people who make kick butt stuff in this area. Really, you did have fantastic documentation, as the original said. Kudos.

There is a company, yc in fact http://readme.io/

It doesn't look like readme.io actually writes the docs; they just make tools for writing docs.

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While RethinkDB looks amazing I'm glad I didn't listen to the people here demanding me to switch from MongoDB. In the future I will just stick with what works.

In my experience RethinkDB "just works" and Mongo didn't.

MongoDB has served me well but HN almost convinced me to change even if I haven't had any problems. I'll never listen to you guys again because if I did I would be stuck with a scrapped database.
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