Browsing your website does not mean I want your spam

Post by codedokode » Tue, Aug 23, 2016, 11:43 PM UTC

dingaling wrote: post #194

codedokode wrote: post #143

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As a side effect disabling javascript also makes pages load faster, makes browser use less memory, hides advertisements and protects you from popups.

> As a side effect disabling javascript also makes pages load faster Ironically on our rather elderly laptops NoScript actually increases page loading times by a factor of two and that's with the out-of-the-box configuration. I haven't looked to see what pattern-matching algorithms it uses but they're very slow. Core2 Duo Dell Latitudes.

Post by dredmorbius » Wed, Aug 24, 2016, 1:29 AM UTC

yAnonymous wrote: post #201

cyberferret wrote: post #127

I am really beginning to hate browsing the web these days... Especially poop up dialogs asking for my email as soon as the mouse cursor leaves the active browser screen. With an average of 20 browser tabs open, while one is loading I often go to click on another to check on something, and this instantly triggers a flurry of popups begging me to stay/subscribe. Also the retargeted ads that follow me everywhere now. MO…

>Especially poop up dialogs asking for my email as soon as the mouse cursor leaves the active browser screen I've been thinking of creating a public uBlock filter list for websites with newsletter overlays/popups...

Post by wpietri » Wed, Aug 24, 2016, 3:18 AM UTC

dredmorbius wrote: post #242

wpietri wrote: post #232

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Thanks. As a kid, I'd read my grandfather's real estate sales manuals and I always found them both fascinating and horrific. The hacker in me always appreciates good technique. But there was just no getting around the fact that it was all about manipulating other people into doing whatever got you paid. In a way, I feel bad for akg_67 and people like him. Our morals too easily conform to our jobs. As Upton Sinclair s…

Do you recall any details of those manuals? Company-specific stuff, or National Association of Realtors (NAR) stuff? What time period?

Post by dragonwriter » Wed, Aug 24, 2016, 12:42 PM UTC

actsasbuffoon wrote: post #47

sp332 wrote: post #21

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This is really pushing the boundaries of the CAN-SPAM act. You're not allowed to send unsolicited emails. You shouldn't be allowed to pretend that visiting a site is a solicitation. Edit: I misunderstood the mechanism of collecting the addresses. This isn't skirting "unsolicited mail", but it is circumventing the ban on harvested email addresses.

California and New Jersey have laws that go above and beyond the protections outlined in CAN-SPAM. I used to work for a company that sent spam (I swear, I didn't know until after I'd already accepted the job), and we avoided sending to those states. If more states would adopt laws like this, we could dramatically curtail spam. As for what constitutes solicitation, I wish it was that simple. In some instances, compani…

Post by dredmorbius » Fri, Aug 26, 2016, 4:57 AM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #248

dredmorbius wrote: post #246

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Thanks. Sounds pretty bog standard for sales, but dovetails in with some related stuff I'm looking at. Sales is a very telling counterpoint to economic "free market" theory.

Yes, definitely. I look at sales and advertising as an arms race. If nobody did it, we would be fine, especially now when publishing is free and search is incredibly good. But if anybody does it, all their competitors are obliged to keep up. The free-market equilibrium is obviously wasteful. I'm sure we could save a half-trillion dollars a year if we eliminated this sort of arms race. I'd expect free market advocates…