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Chrome removes Backspace to go back

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Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

#241

I love how most of the comments on the bug tracker are "I've never lost data so therefore no one has and this should go back because I'm used to it." Typical myopic power users...

What's wrong with that attitude? Given the lack of alternatives being offered that seems like a perfectly acceptable complaint.

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

#243

I'm going to take a somewhat contrarian view and say, "Thank you, Chrome developers." It's always easy to tell apart the people who know shortcuts from the people who don't, if you watch them use their computers. Someone with a few shortcuts on tap will zoom around their monitors, switching between mouse and keyboard only when necessary. But there are a few shortcuts and user interface quirks that are too outdated an…

But there are better solutions. Comment #35 in that thread actually provides one:

> The problem: Moving away from a form can result in data loss.

> Your solution: Make it harder to move away.

> The correct solution: Cache tab history completely and make it easy to move forward and backward in a tab's history by reusing cache and maintaining form contents.

(Source: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=608016...)

Safari does this, for instance, and yes it does happen that I accidentally the whole thing by hitting backspace, but it's OK because I know if I just go forward again, it'll all still be there – fully intact.

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

#245
>Are you suggesting that the only remaining options are Alt-Left (a two-hand key combo for that I have to move my mouse hand towards the keyboard, and then back)

I guess no one told this guy that a standard keyboard has two ALT keys.

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

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post #25

Chrome / Chromium have a habit of making these arbitrary changes that seriously annoy some (arguably small) percentage of their users, while claiming that it makes it simpler / better for everyone else, while explaining impatiently why it's infeasible to make the now missing feature a configuration option. Evidently the kinds of people that can't be bothered going into the Advanced Configuration Settings page would b…

The problem with configuration options is that they need maintaining indefinitely to accommodate a small proportion of the user population. That means testing behaviour with the flag on/off, and taking into account the possibility of that flag being on when dealing with bug reports.

In this case it's a minor thing which probably wouldn't require much maintainance, but you have to draw the line somewhere.

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

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post #213

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm quite the opposite opinion and use Backspace to go back extensively, because it means that I can browse the web with one hand on my laptop with trackpoint. If you're accidently clicking on things, maybe learn to use a mouse better. P.S.: Oh and if it's a crappy touchpad making unwanted inputs, then I share your concern (and probably a good time to look at other laptop keyboards; turning off the touchpad on this L…

> If you're accidently clicking on things, maybe learn to use a mouse better. Oh, give me a freaking break. You never accidentally click the wrong things? And you never visit a page that "helpfully" plays around with the default focus behavior?

Not with proper input devices (as said, I wouldn't count a regular touchpad as such, given that it's often unsuitably placed/configured) and well, focus is a really crucial UI abstraction, so I automatically pay double attention before I use the keyboard.

In the end I find this Chrom(e|ium) change to be the wrong solution to a questionable problem and a regression (a proper fix would introduce fully/mostly rebindable keys).

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

#248
post #178

Analysis from Chrome devs here https://codereview.chromium.org/1854963002 Though I am a frequent user of backspace in Chrome I'm inclined to agree with their decision. Almost no one is using it and casual users are confused by it. I'll just wait for someone to implement the feature in an extension.

I use Backspace back quite a bit myself and was confused when it stopped working but I think it's the right decision to remove it. I'll just switch to Alt-Left rather than switch to an extension (and endure the week or two of annoyance while I adapt). I actually use Page-Down instead of space which I suspect makes me weird but I feel like Space should be next on the hit-list as long as they are cleaning up confusing…

Please don't give them ideas. Backspace they can have because it causes real problems with forms, but Space never hurt anybody.

No seriously, if any Chrome devs are reading this, I will go back to Firefox tomorrow if you break Space.

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

#249

I'm going to take a somewhat contrarian view and say, "Thank you, Chrome developers." It's always easy to tell apart the people who know shortcuts from the people who don't, if you watch them use their computers. Someone with a few shortcuts on tap will zoom around their monitors, switching between mouse and keyboard only when necessary. But there are a few shortcuts and user interface quirks that are too outdated an…

The middle mouse button paste is one of my favorite Linux features. When I discovered that nuance, I was shocked that Microsoft never included it by default in any of the Windows systems I'd used throughout history. Having access to two separate sections of the clipboard has proven invaluable to me time and time again.

The difference with that feature and the topic at hand is that, should someone in X/Wayland decide to rip it out, there will be a config file I can easily modify to turn "middle_mouse_paste=0" to "middle_mouse_paste=1" and keep a very precious piece of functionality, indefinitely.

Re: Chrome removes Backspace to go back

#250
Good fuck that was annoying. I actually came up with a new work flow for all browsers because of this. I always open links in a new tab so if I want to go back I have to close the tab and if I want to go forward I will middle click to open in a new tab. This only falls apart when I run into a multi-page form or application that requires text. When that happens I hate that backspace goes back.
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