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Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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It seems like a lot of people skimmed without reading the top or bottom of this site: It's not a company. It's not a product. You're not being asked to buy it or buy into it, just to discuss the concept if you'd like. This website is a portfolio piece for a 21-year-old university student hoping to find an internship. In my opinion, it's an impressive demonstration of his design and technical skills. It certainly says…

I agree with everything you said. This is a brilliant resume and he ought to be looking for gainful employment, rather than just an internship.

me too

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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post #60

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This guy has the chops to come up with a well designed concept and should have the opportunity to defend & iterate on it based on constructive feedback. Some of these comments provide that feedback while others flatly have an issue with the idea of a concept altogether. It's unfortunate that desktop UI has remained stuck for quite awhile and only MS & Apple can really provide a new paradigm for people to adopt. Both…

>t's unfortunate that desktop UI has remained stuck for quite awhile A lot of things get "stuck" and for good reason. Steering wheel, gas, and brake. Sight, trigger, stock. Underwear, pants, socks, etc. Personally, I think the NT team really nailed the concept of the desktop back in 1993 with 3.1. The start button which hid programs and allowed access to other functions was incredibly handy, a bit like how a desk has…

First I think this site and idea presented is brilliantly built and communicated - while I don't like gestures myself, they are useful for many things...

That said, one of the most elegant and wonderful UX I ever had was with Softimage starting on sgi in 1993.

Still to this day I felt they nailed user interaction so wonderfully back then.

When you watch someone interact with a deeply complex application and see them just swim through using it - it's really great.

Like professional animators and both sound and video editors/producers etc.

I don't have any opinion at the moment on this as I need to read all the comments and watch his video, but we'll put together site.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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post #201

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The lack of discoverability extends to OSX's keyboard shortcuts as well. I completely changed how I work after I discovered 'Command Tab' and 'Command ~'

To this day, I have not figured out how to switch to another desktop on my Macbook Air using a keyboard shortcut. To be fair, I use it very rarely.

Control-Left|Right Arrow.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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post #201

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The lack of discoverability extends to OSX's keyboard shortcuts as well. I completely changed how I work after I discovered 'Command Tab' and 'Command ~'

To this day, I have not figured out how to switch to another desktop on my Macbook Air using a keyboard shortcut. To be fair, I use it very rarely.

I'm pretty sure the default is Ctrl+Left and Ctrl+Right, but I've customized it so many times I can't be completely sure.

OS X actually allows a lot of customization. You assign a keyboard shortcut to any menu item in System Preferences -> Keyboard -> Shortcuts -> App Shortcuts.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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post #159

The biggest thing I find lacking in desktop UI is the ability to save and switch between states. We need the idea of project 'sessions' where I can open up the software I need to use, pull up the files I need, set my favorite folders, etc and then hit 'save' and be able to restore back to that setup at the click of a button. Right now, switching between projects means setting all that up every single time.

I agree whole-heartedly. I was excited when I heard Windows 10 was adding multiple desktops, however I find they are quite lacking in use. For example if I want to move a single window of Notepad++ to a different desktop it moves all of the Notepad++ instances. On top of that, I really don't want all of my software always open in a separate desktop. There is no need for me to keep Photoshop open, using resources, whi…

>For example if I want to move a single window of Notepad++ to a different desktop it moves all of the Notepad++ instances.

I think this is a problem with Notepad++, because I can move around single instances of all other apps I tried (Chrome, VS, etc).

>On top of that, I really don't want all of my software always open in a separate desktop.

Ideally the user should not need to worry about "open" apps and the resources they are taking up just by being open (not doing any work). It is the app's and the OS's job to ensure that background apps do not use CPU for doing nothing and the memory management is good enough that you always have enough memory for what you wanna run NOW. And I think that is quite good in Windows 10 and OSX right now. I can have multiple VS projects, a couple of VMs, multiple SSH sessions, Outlook, couple of Office docs, ~30 tabs across several Chrome windows open and I can still create a new Desktop and play some Need for Speed when I reach home.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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post #228

How did he create those demos, did he actually write a windows manager that wraps existing OS functions into his format? The amount of code that would take to give all of the functionality would be stupendous. Also how did he implement eye tracking with such robustness? Could he be kernel hacking and remapping the video memory buffer so that his shim code can take the output of working programs and then rearrange it…

not sure why the downvotes unless you assumed I was sarcastic? I assure you I honestly want to know. As a programmer I only really understand one way to create screen output. Any other mechanism to create demos as slick as that one I would be very interested to learn about. Given that everyone in this thread is completely ignoring how it was accomplished and only talking about the design skill, I feel I am missing a critical piece of information about the process of creating demos such as that. While such techniques may be common to your industry, to those of us outside they appear as magic.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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> The [menu] is easily scannable and you can search for options just by typing. This is really important. It's 2016, search is easy, and I shouldn't have to hunt around because I don't know whether you stuck your options dialog under File, Edit, or Tools. I appreciate Ubuntu for implementing this OS-wide with Unity's HUD feature.

The OS X Help menu does this as well.

Ditto for Windows. This is hardly new.

Re: Desktop Neo – rethinking the desktop interface for productivity

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

To this day, I have not figured out how to switch to another desktop on my Macbook Air using a keyboard shortcut. To be fair, I use it very rarely.

Control-Left|Right Arrow.

Gotta try it when I bring it out next. Thanks!
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