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Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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post #240

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Shouldn't interviewers be asking about things that wouldn't be answerable in a book?

They should be asking things that are relevant to the job.

See, now you just broke the entire recruitment process.

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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post #198

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At my school, it was made very explicit that you'd be immediately expelled for plagiarism (subject to appeal, IIRC, but yes: One strike.)

As it should be. The whole system is underpinned by the assumption that no one can cheat. Everyone knows tons of people cheat, but any university who has a "n-strike" policy for academic dishonesty (aka fraud), is purely in it for the money. To students who busted their asses to graduate legitimately, it's a hard slap in the face.

I probably have super skewed view on the matter, but what is the point of expelling someone for cheating? Not everyone learns the same way and not everyone needs the same set of skills/knowledge. I feel like people put way too much value on a degree considering what real world is like.

So far in my short SW engineering career I haven't used a single thing I "learned" from my B.Sc degree, but what school did was to let me hang around with same minded people for few years which encouraged us to work on side projects together which taught us way more than any class.

That being said, I didn't cheat either, but I don't think cheating once is a good grounds for expelling someone.

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

#245

Just use control+shift+v that drops any formatting on the clipboard and keeps the text part. Incredibly helpful for wysiwyg editors too.

Does not seem to work on ubuntu, unfortunately.

Yeah, it's a Windows thing, forgot to add.

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As it should be. The whole system is underpinned by the assumption that no one can cheat. Everyone knows tons of people cheat, but any university who has a "n-strike" policy for academic dishonesty (aka fraud), is purely in it for the money. To students who busted their asses to graduate legitimately, it's a hard slap in the face.

I probably have super skewed view on the matter, but what is the point of expelling someone for cheating? Not everyone learns the same way and not everyone needs the same set of skills/knowledge. I feel like people put way too much value on a degree considering what real world is like. So far in my short SW engineering career I haven't used a single thing I "learned" from my B.Sc degree, but what school did was to le…

> I probably have super skewed view on the matter, but what is the point of expelling someone for cheating?

Devaluing the degrees of everyone who didn't cheat, both economically and socially.

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As it should be. The whole system is underpinned by the assumption that no one can cheat. Everyone knows tons of people cheat, but any university who has a "n-strike" policy for academic dishonesty (aka fraud), is purely in it for the money. To students who busted their asses to graduate legitimately, it's a hard slap in the face.

I probably have super skewed view on the matter, but what is the point of expelling someone for cheating? Not everyone learns the same way and not everyone needs the same set of skills/knowledge. I feel like people put way too much value on a degree considering what real world is like. So far in my short SW engineering career I haven't used a single thing I "learned" from my B.Sc degree, but what school did was to le…

discourages other people?

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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I personally do web stuff in GUI with a mouse (I have vimium chrome extension, but old habits die hard) and select text by multitap: 60% of the time it works all the time. When it does not work I just drag-select and paste to terminal. Seems rather safe, as this does not work on this example. tripple-tap on both urls give "git://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/kup/kup.git" (with the exception that the first one contains…

On Firefox on my mac, triple click and drag onto a notepad gave me the entire thing, including the echo lines.

The same with FF on Windows8. Makes one wonder whether selecting/copying only what's visible should be the expected behaviour. I'd go for yes

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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post #32

Off-topic/meta: "Oh, and it seems that other people wrote a detailed text about this issue in 2008." Well ... yeah. We've known about this. And yes, we need to keep making people aware. I'm also amused by all the young people and their containers: always doing things in a root shell. I'm waiting for that to implode in a few more years. My point here is that maybe it's time we started designing some curricula around t…

> always doing things in a root shell Ah yes. The sudo high horse. I knew I'd see you again. Viva La #

Don't jump to conclusions; my comment says nothing about sudo. There's a time to use the root shell, and a time to sudo; the key is knowing the difference. Dismissing advice because "it's never caused me a problem before" or "you don't know what you're talking about" will cause problems at some point.

If you can elucidate the reasons (plural), you need to be in a root shell, by all means use a root shell. If you're doing because "it's easier" and no other reasons, then you probably need a bit more experience. In any case, always using a root shell is the Wrong Thing To Do.

Re: Don't copy paste from a website to a terminal

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

As it should be. The whole system is underpinned by the assumption that no one can cheat. Everyone knows tons of people cheat, but any university who has a "n-strike" policy for academic dishonesty (aka fraud), is purely in it for the money. To students who busted their asses to graduate legitimately, it's a hard slap in the face.

I probably have super skewed view on the matter, but what is the point of expelling someone for cheating? Not everyone learns the same way and not everyone needs the same set of skills/knowledge. I feel like people put way too much value on a degree considering what real world is like. So far in my short SW engineering career I haven't used a single thing I "learned" from my B.Sc degree, but what school did was to le…

As your instructor you are asking me to certify, on my professional reputation and honor, that you know the material and can be expected to perform to minimum standards. If you cheat, you are untrustworthy, disrespectful, incompetent, and willing to engage in behavior which can cost a company millions - or even get people killed. He11 yeah I'll want you expelled.
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