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Groupon Is Laying Off 1,100, Shutters Operations in 7 Countries

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Re: Groupon Is Laying Off 1,100, Shutters Operations in 7 Countries

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Not really sure why "was a physics graduate student" means anything about his business acumen here. Eric Lefkofsky has a law degree, Brad Keywell has a JD and an MBA, we could do this all day. Having a graduate degree in a hard science could certainly suggest a person has a different way of approaching business, but Wang dropped out so he could unapologetically clone other people's ideas.

I think the OP is stating the opposite, that being a physics grad student would imply he probably couldn't run the business as well as the Groupon founders.

Ah, well then I'm a doofus. That makes sense. Apologies, OP.

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I was replying to your comment specifically about tipping customs in the US. If you grow up in the US and go to restaurants it's not unreasonable to absorb tipping etiquette along the way. You still save money with a coupon, you're not paying full price for the meal. That's no reason to screw over the server who depends on tips for a living. If someone is seriously strapped for cash and needs to save money, they shou…

I've grown up in america and is the first time I've ever heard this and I imagine I'm not alone. It's also kind of difficult since people factor the tip at the end of the meal when they get the receipt, not when they have a menu in front of them.

Sure, but it is obvious, right? You aren't going to give them no tip because the deal was free after you bought the coupon?

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I got a groupon(or similar) for a straight-blade shave. The guy was using replaceable blades, was obviously using and old blade, and absolutely tore my face up. Nicks and blood everywhere. When I didn't give him a tip, I could tell he was upset.

Where did you even find a barber who does straight-blade shaves? Let alone a Groupon?

They're around. Try to find a barber who works "by appointment only."

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Is it running on fumes? They still have significant revenues and loyal customers and a million sales people.

They don't have a million sales people -_-, 11.8k employees total is a better estimate [1], dropping to 10.7k soon. Maybe fumes was not the right word. The things they offer as "deals" are fumes. I just loaded the Toronto section, and saw "$179 for $2392 worth of laser hair removal" with >200 sold. I don't believe that the $2392 figure is not grossly inflated. Also "$430 for a $899 iPhone", but then you notice "condi…

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Re: Groupon Is Laying Off 1,100, Shutters Operations in 7 Countries

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At first I thought this was bad news for Groupon, but after reading about it, it seems like a logical strategy. Groupon recently exited Turkey and Greece, which makes a lot of sense considering the economic turmoil in those countries and in the region in general. The 7 countries that were affected in this news were fairly small markets. Since when was Uruguay a major player in the global economy? The layoffs of 1100 mostly in sales and customer service seems reasonable when operations in 7 countries are shut down. Groupon has over 10,000 employees. A 10% reduction in staff trims some of the low performers. Microsoft and Amazon probably cut more staff each year with their stack rankings. (I know MS supposedly killed off their stack rankings, but I have a feeling it still exists albeit in a less visible capacity.) Overall, I think these moves make Groupon stronger, more competitive, more focused and more capable in a cutthroat market.

Re: Groupon Is Laying Off 1,100, Shutters Operations in 7 Countries

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post #225

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I got a groupon(or similar) for a straight-blade shave. The guy was using replaceable blades, was obviously using and old blade, and absolutely tore my face up. Nicks and blood everywhere. When I didn't give him a tip, I could tell he was upset.

Where did you even find a barber who does straight-blade shaves? Let alone a Groupon?

A couple years ago I visited a Mexican barber in Chicago who surprised me by doing a straight blade shave.

Re: Groupon Is Laying Off 1,100, Shutters Operations in 7 Countries

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post #167

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You know that most of the world's population doesn't tip at all? Given that, it seems kind of strange to assume everyone just knows the appropriate tipping etiquette without being told when getting the coupon or sitting down. Plus the most active users of groupon are probably doing it to save as much money as possible with coupons. They're unlikely to willingly throw away those savings on massive tips... and from wha…

I was replying to your comment specifically about tipping customs in the US. If you grow up in the US and go to restaurants it's not unreasonable to absorb tipping etiquette along the way. You still save money with a coupon, you're not paying full price for the meal. That's no reason to screw over the server who depends on tips for a living. If someone is seriously strapped for cash and needs to save money, they shou…

I'm aware of tipping based on the full amount, and I agree with the practice. But there are other nuances to it that people can quibble about. For example, it's not expected to tip on drinks according to some people.

The bottom line is that tipping is a custom and an etiquette. These things vary quite a lot from location to location. It's surprising to me that someone would assert that there's really only one proper way to do it in a country as big as this.

Emily Post, for example, says to tip only on the pre-tax amount of the meal plus 1-2$ per drink and nothing at all about coupons.

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Still doesn't change the fact that Groupon has a rather nasty habit of taking advantage of small businesses and generally screwing them over. But that's a mixed bag also. I use Groupon a lot and find them to be a great source of places with generally well-meaning owners who are a good alternative to large corporate chains and work hard to keep me coming back.

My ex-girlfriend used Groupon to find ways to go cheap and took advantage of it with absolutely no intention of ever going back to see anyone a second time. Her repeat business could not be bought with any exceptional level of service.

Ultimately, it's a business decision the owners have to make for themselves. The problem for Groupon as a company is that their largest appeal is for people who are going to be a bad business decision for the owners using their service. It's a bad model, and it's clearly failing, so that means things are working exactly as they should.

Re: Groupon Is Laying Off 1,100, Shutters Operations in 7 Countries

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Not really sure why "was a physics graduate student" means anything about his business acumen here. Eric Lefkofsky has a law degree, Brad Keywell has a JD and an MBA, we could do this all day. Having a graduate degree in a hard science could certainly suggest a person has a different way of approaching business, but Wang dropped out so he could unapologetically clone other people's ideas.

I think the OP is stating the opposite, that being a physics grad student would imply he probably couldn't run the business as well as the Groupon founders.

However, in the same sentence he's described as 'very competent'.
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