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Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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This is happening more and more. WTF web devs? Me: Where are the charts themselves? Me: Oh, I'm using noscript. Me: Displaying PNGs now requires javascript.

Sorry, the trivial amount of people using noscript is simply unimportant to me.

For a sentence that begins with sorry, that's quite an abrasive followup. It's rather offputting.

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I remember once meeting an old high school friend in NYC. He was hanging out at one of those non-descript but unfathomably loud bars. Some of his coworkers stopped by. The conversation switched to the car one of them had bought. A Lexus SC430 convertible. He was complaining about how he never got to get out of The City and drive it enough. They were all super-sharp CS graduates working for one of the most successful…

San Jose is not hurting for nearby recreation oppurtunities, though you often need a car to access them. On the other hand, try a city with hot/humid southern weather like Atlanta or even Dallas or Huston...there is a reason they have high obesity rates.

That said, if you can bike or take transit to work, the cost of owning, maintaining, and insuring a $5000 used car to go hiking and surfing isn't very significant.

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If more employers understood the value of distributed teams, this wouldn't even need to be an issue. You could live exactly where you wanted to live. Want a 700 sq ft studio in Manhattan for $3k/month? Great. Want a 2000 sq ft ranch home next to a river out in the country with your own garden? Done. Want to just save as much as you can, with a cheap apartment in a cheap town outside a cheap city? You got it. Maybe yo…

Two things: not every place has access to excellent broadband and the legal and accounting issues for a distributed workforce can be significant, depending on where your home office is located. It could, for example, for you to pay taxes in that state and account for any sales the remote employee had a hand in. It's not too complex, but it requires a lot of attention to detail. It drives my HR and accounting departme…

Incorporate: https://twitter.com/JamiesonBecker/status/570325065419481088

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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If more employers understood the value of distributed teams, this wouldn't even need to be an issue. You could live exactly where you wanted to live. Want a 700 sq ft studio in Manhattan for $3k/month? Great. Want a 2000 sq ft ranch home next to a river out in the country with your own garden? Done. Want to just save as much as you can, with a cheap apartment in a cheap town outside a cheap city? You got it. Maybe yo…

> You could live exactly where you wanted to live. Until that awesome employer has layoffs and your options get really limited out in Nowhere, UT.

Recent CB Insights (crunchbase) analysis found that Utah is the best (least competitive vs amount raised) place to raise a funding round. And the powder ain't so bad. :) (not too bad taxes, either, if you prefer cold over Texas's heat & zero taxes..)

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I love how "put up with car culture" is a thing for our generation. Previous generation it would be "put up with not being able to drive". I'm fighting a losing battle against life in the suburbs but my one hope is that by the time I give in, I can commute in a self-driving car.

That's only a thing for people who live in NYC, Chicago, and maybe the Bay. The rest of us still need cars. I live pretty far away but my commute to Pittsburgh is ~2 hours each way.

There are plenty of parts of Pittsburgh where a car is a 'want', not a 'need.' Especially in the era of improving bike infrastructure and internet taxis.

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>It's just marginally better than the awful road system I go to CO for vacation semi-regularly, what am I missing as a tourist? Because I actually praise the roads in CO and their road crews frequently. From what I've seen, they are several magnitudes better compared to most other places that I've been to or lived in... and I'm from a military brat family and a road tripper.

Anywhere you go as a tourist, you're not getting the rush-hour experience. While this is significant, the worst thing about the Denver road system is the unwillingness to plan. There are essentially only two (!) real roadways: I-70 and I-25. If you're willing to pay the few hundred $/mo, you can also drive on 470 to bypass the traffic. Once you get away from these two (three), it's a mire of unconnected and unplanned…

Denver is a midsized metro area of 2.5M, how many Interstates do you expect? And how far are you driving that only an Interstate highway counts as a 'real roadway'?

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I am an exception as I rent a room for 500 CHF (the norm is 750-1000 CHF). Also, I pay 200 CHF for the cheapest insurance. Then, I budget about 300 CHF to buy food. If you insist on renting a nice 2bd aparment, you can do so for 2500 CHF in Zurich-city. If you move just slightly out of town, prices drop. I live on the southern end of town and my company is in the north. It takes me only 35 min to go through the whole…

It's easy to say COL is innacurate if you're a single person willing to live a frugal lifestyle. These are typically based on average family size, so in the US, that's a family with 2.3 children. I'm not sure what the average family size is in Switzerland. My point being- I used to be able to save a tremendous amount of money; something like 65% of my after tax income, when I was single. Now that I'm married with two…

Even so, the way a family with 2.3 children lives can differ significantly between cities. A successful middle-class family with 2 children isn't abnormal if they live in a 2-bedroom apartment in NYC, but they are well outside the norm in most other cities.

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No mention of Pittsburgh! We have a fairly low cost-of-living and decent salaries for tech.

I'm from there originally, and I agree, but the weather really is a problem. It's terrible. I live in Portland now, an area renowned for its gray rainy days and lack of sunlight. And yet, it has been 50º-60º and sunny for nearly a month now. Whenever I check Pittsburgh it's hovering around 0º. It's really a shame because I love Pittsburgh.

Pittsburgh's weather isn't that bad, having gone through 4 winters there in college. This year has been an outlier, with the Western US generally experiencing record heat and drought while the Eastern US has experienced record cold: http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/02/19/freezing_c... http://www.latimes.com/local/california/la-me-east-west-weat...

Re: Cities with High Salary to Cost of Living Ratios for Software Developers

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Would be nice to see more SE cities in here like Atlanta, Miami/Ft Lauderdale, Tampa/Orlando, Jacksonville, Charlotte, NOLA, etc.. edit the software market is pretty hot up in DC/North Virginia too Salary/COL is typically high in the bigger SE metros from what I've observed growing up in the region.

Memphis here.

The cost of living here is basically impossible to beat.

I wouldn't necessarily recommend the city of Memphis, but I wouldn't dissuade anyone from living here either.

The 'burbs here are indistinguishable from the 'burbs anywhere else. Within the city there are certain neighborhoods that are very bike/walker friendly. We have Shelby Farms, which is an urban park 5 times larger than Central Park.

Memphis also has a lot of crime. In the poorest neighborhoods that manifests as gang-related violent crime. In the rest of the city we deal with a higher than average rate of property theft. Get a big dog (or a small dog with a big bark) and lock your doors and you'll be fine.

Overall I love the city and I want to be here as it begins to recover from decades of mismanagement and overt racism.

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Yes because of insane property tax

High property taxes are a myth. Slightly higher, yes. However, you can choose your tax rate by choosing a subdivision right next door. Subdivs w/ larger, more expensive homes tend to have lower tax rates. 3% at $100k home is common, 2.5% at $500k home. Depends on community amenities. About half of the collected tax go directly to your local school district, and small slices to various community services, fire, police…

Rentals have no property tax, of course.

Someone's paying that tax, even though it's not the tenant. That's going to get passed through to the tenant in the form of higher rents.

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