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Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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One thing that I noticed, is that the more expensive the hotel, the worst is the WiFI. Same applies when I have to pay for WiFI - the more I pay, the worst it is. I've found that 3 star hotels that offer free WiFI usually have the best speeds/service. Whereas 5 star hotels that usually charge $14.95 daily have the worst.

Oftentimes, the reason for this is that those hotels were particularly early in offering their guests internet access but then bought into a draconian external service provider with awful service, high fees, very long contract duration, and slow speed. Usually, when I'm in an expensive hotel with awful (paid) internet, I speak up and they explain this to me. The last hotel where that happened explained to me that man…

I've asked a lot of hotels about these things, I was usually told that it's the hotel that doesn't want to pay a little extra for the higher speed uplink (by the support), or that they've already exhausted their budget for this year (believe it or not, the budget thing was at Hyatt House once).

I'm not sure that many places would be under a 10-year contract; that sounds like too long a contract (especially if the company wants several grands for support on a regular basis; I think 3 to 5 year contracts would be much more common and reasonable). Even if they are so long, crappy WiFi could as well be ground for breach-of-contract, and they should be able to have the vendor get busy.

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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I have a Clear hotspot that costs me $55/m for 10/2 Mb and is unlimited use. The only time they've throttled me was when I watched Netflix for 8h straight.

Things like Clear are designed as home internet solutions so they have very small coverage areas. They don't work well for travelling.

I've traveled many places in the US with it. Clear's WiMax network is the basis for much of Sprint's connectivity so it's all over the place. It has worked in every US city I've tried it in.

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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Things like Clear are designed as home internet solutions so they have very small coverage areas. They don't work well for travelling.

I've traveled many places in the US with it. Clear's WiMax network is the basis for much of Sprint's connectivity so it's all over the place. It has worked in every US city I've tried it in.

Do you mostly travel around the East coast? Sprint seems to have pretty good coverage in the north east. Outside of that it looks like a few major market cities though.

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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> An external ethernet dongle is more likely to break or get lost. Sure, but it's replaceable for the cheap cost of ~$10 - 20. > There's no VGA port either which is a necessity for me. 2007 called, they want their already-deprecated video standards back. > No CD drive either. 2000 called, they want their already-deprecated media storage standards back. >Is this thing a laptop or a big smartphone with no touch screen?…

>Sure, but it's replaceable for the cheap cost of ~$10 - 20. Still inconvenient at least. USB Ethernet dongles also have the possibility of not being able to be used for network booting. >2007 called, they want their already-deprecated video standards back. Make it DVI or whatever you want then. I still need a video output for another monitor. >2000 called, they want their already-deprecated media storage standards b…

> Make it DVI or whatever you want then. I still need a video output for another monitor.

There is thunderbolt, DisplayPort, mini HDMI, and micro HDMI. Any small form factor laptop has at least one of these. DisplayPort, mini HDMI, and micro HDMI are all standard connectors. Mini HDMI and micro HDMI can be converted to DVI with connectors only and no additional active electronics.

> Still inconvenient at least. USB Ethernet dongles also have the possibility of not being able to be used for network booting.

If you're already carrying around an ethernet cable, just leave the NIC attached to the ethernet cable. You said it yourself that you have no issue carrying around 10 pounds worth of electronics, an ethernet dongle only weighs a few grams.

Note that many laptops simply do not support network booting, however these newer laptops (especially the macs) have proper networking built into the EFI firmware. Additionally, note that USB 3 and thunderbolt have pushed the bar for what you can do with external peripherals. If your only option for wired networking was a USB 2.0 networking adapter, then yes, I agree, that would be a joke. The USB 3 and thunderbolt NICs are actually quite good though. The USB 3 NIC that is sold by Apple supports every networking standard you would expect a built-in NIC to support and can achieve gigabit speeds without issue. It is additionally supported by the linux kernel out of the box. I actually find these NICs to be quite valuable when working in data centers as I can connect my laptop to multiple networks which have an air gap between each other by using multiple USB 3.0 NICs.

Samsung Series 9 ultrabooks don't actually use USB or Thunderbolt for the external NIC, instead they just use a connector that is thinner and provide an adapter to attach a normal ethernet cable to it. This allows them to have a normal onboard NIC and still maintain the thin form factor.

The thing that has reignited support for external peripherals is really USB 3.0 and Thunderbolt since they provide enough performance to support high bandwidth external devices.

Note that I'm not an Apple "fanboy" by any means, I use a work-issued Macbook Pro because it is relatively compact and sports a 500gb SSD, an 8-thread I7, 16GB of RAM, and exceptional battery life. I run linux on it and booted OS X fewer than 5 times so I don't actually benefit from Thunderbolt and as a linux guy I don't advocate proprietary connectors. It's really hard for me to say that Thunderbolt is inconvenient though when I see colleagues plug a single Thunderbolt cable into their laptop which is daisy chained to multiple 32-inch displays, gigabit ethernet, external hard drives, and multiple USB peripherals without any performance issues. As the industry continues to push the bar for high speed external buses, we'll continue to see the practicality of external peripherals increase.

Different form factors suit different purposes and different people. I own multiple laptops because of this, but I actually far prefer high performance desktops over laptops as I work on enterprise virtualization software and frequently need multiple hardware-accelerated NICs, a physical raid controller, 32-64GB of RAM, etc. No laptop meets these requirements so I go with the most portable form factor possible instead of using something in the middle which I find to be a mediocre compromise between portability and performance (adds more size and weight, but doesn't actually help me get more done). Most people have far lower requirements though and a macbook air will work just fine.

The important thing to remember is that no one is taking away the other options and all parts of the industry benefit directly or indirectly from the advancement of technologies which allow laptops to be made thinner, lighter, and less power hungry. Buy whatever suits your taste, it's great that we have options.

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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I just googled 'apple ethernet' and got the UK apple store page for their USB ethernet adaptor[1]. It costs £25 (US$42, so this isn't some cheap junk), and of the twelve reviews, six give it one star and two give it two stars. The point of using ethernet in preference to wifi is to get the dependability of battle-tested 30 year old technology; and using an ethernet dongle deprives you of that. [1] http://store.apple.…

The new Thunderbolt version which works like a native port at full gigabit speed.

The USB 3.0 ethernet adapters are also quite good if you're not running OS X (and thus don't have thunderbolt support).

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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Nice! I've wanted something like this for a while. Glad someone built it.

Seems like ping time is missing, which is critical to me. Also, would be great to have some measure of ping/speed/reliability over time, either via repeated automated testing or guest ratings.

I've often stayed at places which had decent speed, but unserviceable ping times, which is really a buzzkill for VoIP and online meetings.

Another issue is wifi that is fast, but unreliable. I've experienced a lot of that since moving to Brazil; Internet that just goes missing at intervals too regular to ignore.

Would be interesting if a widely-used service like speedtest.net would enable some tagging of IP addresses to pool results, so you could see the aggregated results for a given hotel over time.

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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> What is stopping them from offering a parallel much faster WiFi? Exclusivity clause in the contract possibly. They could buy out the rest of the contract, but that could be quite expensive (and the other party is under no obligation to agree unless there is already an option defined in said contract). Even if the WiFi exclusivity is not explicitly stated there might be a clause about the hotel ensuring there is min…

> They could buy out the rest of the contract, but that could be quite expensive (and the other party is under no obligation to agree unless there is already an option defined in said contract What kind of dumbmass businessman signs such a contract? No matter the price, the contract should have included "responsibility to meet customer expected speeds and availability of the wifi service provided". And then cut the c…

Yes, but any such clause is wrapped in arbitration requirements which cost time if nothing else.

I'm surprised that many business people sign bad contracts, but it happens a lot especially with long term contracts like these.

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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Would like to see this for coffee shops.

Just check out the Original at http://speedspot.org and download the iOS or Android App. There you can find hotels, cafes, restaurants, etc. Bigger Database too. Still pretty crazy how the bad copy goes viral but not the original even if it's used by hundred thousands of people each month ... but hey such is life.

Thank you, I'll check it out!

Re: Choose hotels by the quality of their WiFi

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I've traveled many places in the US with it. Clear's WiMax network is the basis for much of Sprint's connectivity so it's all over the place. It has worked in every US city I've tried it in.

Do you mostly travel around the East coast? Sprint seems to have pretty good coverage in the north east. Outside of that it looks like a few major market cities though.

No, I've traveled all around the US with it. West, east, midwest. It generally doesn't work well outside of cities but many small cities have towers.
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