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Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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MS is changing, and make no mistake, this has started with Ballmer. If you watch(ed) the press conf, it's quite apparent. App store for Android, Office for iPad, AD for Azure.. quite nice stuff, that's what we expect from a software giant: just release stuff for everything, everywhere, and make things be able to work with each other nicely. Good to see that, competition is always good for the users, and Apple, Google…

You mean started with Ballmer gone?

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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The Office 365 website offers a free months trial.

Ok, but it may be completely different from using the actual app. For example, GMail app is way slower and irresponsive in the iPad than accessing directly from gmail.com in Safari.

The trial should let you download and use the real app - not sure if the confusion was because the poster above said "Office 365 website"

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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This isn't the 1990s anymore where Windows is the dominant platform. It's always easy to see who's in the bubble.

it speaks to the amazing power of marketing. People are always blown away when they find out that apple has less than a 10% market share and that their market share has actually gone down over the last 10 years.

Your post speaks to the amazing power of something, not sure what. Apple's market share of what? Is below what? Where? Among whom? Has dropped since when?

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Yep, we're listening, and it's actively being worked on. See this: http://msopentech.com/blog/2014/02/25/vagrant-and-hyper-v-pr... , and there's more like it still to come.

That's a step in the right direction, but don't make us use Hyper-V when most of us are already using VirtualBox. That's one more thing to add to my stack that is different than my tooling that works with all other operating systems I test on. Most developers using vagrant use VirtualBox. Now I have no problem if you make things work with Hyper-V, but please make things work with VirtualBox as well. Does hyper-v even…

Hyper V is Microsoft's answer to VMWare's ESX, not to VirtualBox.

VirtualBox can be godawful at times. What's not working for you?

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What does she use VMware for?

she has been an avid user of PC Gourmet (Big Blue Disk 39) since the eighties. I have never been able to extract the recipes easily and she has been using it pretty much constantly for 20+ years so there are too many to do by hand. It worked ok in xp but won't run since windows 7/8 so ... vmware

Is there any way you can get a copy of the disk to me? I'm interested in old file formats.

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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I suppose a fringe benefit of open-sourcing .NET would be an eventual reduction in this phenomenon. I mean, it doesn't really even make sense to have a closed-source application programming language in this day and age, where the community building and maintaining it is entirely employed by a single company. It just isn't efficient enough, the maintenance is intractable, and you end up with false starts because the w…

I suppose a fringe benefit of open-sourcing .NET would be an eventual reduction in this phenomenon. Why do you think that would be the case? When I think "open-source" I think "fragmented, lots of utterly terrible things, lots of half-finished false-starts".

Sure, but you can feel free to never use or support the false starts. In open source they are allowed to die. In a closed ecosystem they have a tendency to live on as deprecated zombies.

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What does she use VMware for?

she has been an avid user of PC Gourmet (Big Blue Disk 39) since the eighties. I have never been able to extract the recipes easily and she has been using it pretty much constantly for 20+ years so there are too many to do by hand. It worked ok in xp but won't run since windows 7/8 so ... vmware

For the sake of everyone in your family, please back up everything in multiple places. That's awesome to have a snapshot of the culinary history of your family in digital format. When the time is right, share all the recipes!

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Mac Office has often surpassed Win Office in many ways; in usability for example. It is at least a different product, not better or worse.

"It is at least a different product, not better or worse." The very fact that it's different makes it worse for me. I can use Excel 2010 for Windows without thinking about the tool. Small differences like startup behaviour, position of things on the ribbon, and keyboard shortcut force me to think about how to use Excel for Mac, rather than focusing on the task at hand. Some, but not all, of this is down to difference…

You should really look into a version of Word called 6.0 for Windows and Mac. Thankfully, Excel 6.0 was skipped for the Mac.

Re: Microsoft launches Office for iPad

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In a limited way. Word, Excel, Outlook, Powerpoint, and Communicator (i/o Lync) are available for Mac, but they are not even close to the Windows versions in terms of feature parity. VBA support has been on-and-off. Access, Infopath, and Publisher are not available at all. They're written in Cocoa and on a different release cycle. There is no Office for Mac 2013, current version is 2011.

For 95%+ of their user base, Word, Powerpoint and Excel have feature parity on the Mac/Windows. Outlook and Lync are significantly superior on the Windows Platform. Excel had a pretty nasty regression on the Macintosh in Office 2004/2008 (to the point at which I no longer used it on the Mac in 2008, it was pretty horrid) - but they returned it to (mostly) feature parity as of Office 2011. Sharepoint, on the other han…

For 95% of their user base Outlook for Mac is also at feature parity.

I've been using it in enterprise for years and never found a missing feature.

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Yeah there is a fascinating income bias at play there. Think about it this way, if you are an engineer and you make over 75k a year gross you are in the top 15% of wage earners in the united states, if you make over 100k you are in the top 10% of wage earners. So if you are in one of those brackets chances are your company is spending a good chunk of change on you and doesn't mind springing for a nice laptop to keep…

Would developers write better software if they had to write on slower, older machines with less memory and storage?

No. They would write the kind of software we used to write back in the days when all computers are like that and we traded away everything else for machine efficiency because we had no choice: clumsy, feature impoverished, riddled with arbitrary limits that trip you up at the worst possible moment, fundamentally insecure, hard to use and generally crap.
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