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Post by minikites »

meerita wrote: post #223
minikites wrote: post #131

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The musicians/recording engineers/conductor/support staff don't deserve to be paid?

Well, this is a big debate. I think musicians must be paid by playing live, amd not when every human listen a song, do a cover, or listen it in a bar. I think artists should be credited and pay when others use their creation for commercial use. Staff, as always, they will have jobs. You think the staff is all day working with the records, no, they do sound work on live shows too, as welll producers, designers, print…

Okay, so what about artists who are unable to play live for one reason or another (e.g. handicap, musical complexity). Recording engineering is different enough from live sound that it's almost two different jobs. And you're suggesting that the staff who do things like set up microphones and haul speakers should get paid to set that up for a live show but not paid to set that up for a recording?

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Post by chucknelson »

[deleted] wrote: post #229

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> It shouldn't be my responsibility to try to get these movies legally

Ignoring that statement, which is a nice way to excuse your obvious criminal act(s), despite the correctness of the situation, paying these fees is fine when it's only a few, but the key is that we need centralized services to offer everything easily. If every content creator starts to have their own distribution method, get ready to complain about the "expensive" $10-15 fees you pay for 15 different services!

I'm waiting for the day when consolidation hits and we have 3-5 major streaming players that have almost everything available. Netflix's movie selection is just depressing...

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Post by themechanic »

RealGeek wrote: post #158
cheez wrote: post #101

I clicked "12 years a slave", a movie I have not yet had an opportunity to watch and it started streaming in less than a minute in high quality. I immediately quit the application as it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Please, movie people, let me pay for this. You might kill the cinemas, but you'll still get paid.

You can already pay to watch instantly. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuOaTwuzlrY

The video is not available in certain countries. In countries where it is available outside the United States and Canada, it costs close to 2x the price.

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Post by jasomill »

szatkus wrote: post #191
jacobbudin wrote: post #149

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> Please, movie people, let me pay for this. Amazon.com: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00ICSVLPA/ref=as_li_ss_tl?... iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie/12-years-a-slave/id7403669... And many others: http://www.foxdigitalhd.com/12-years-a-slave Sony could not have made it any easier to get this film into your living room. (Regardless, I don't think media companies have an obligation to make their content av…

"Amazon Instant Video (formerly Amazon Video On Demand and LoveFilm Instant) is an Internet video on demand service offered by Amazon in the United States, United Kingdom, Germany and Japan." iTunes: I don't see renting option. Fox Digital: "United States Brazil Mexico Canada Italia Australia Deutschland Belgium Holland United Kingdom España France" ARRRR!

To add to your "ARRRR!", it is available for rent from iTunes in the US.

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Post by smokeyj »

Zikes wrote: post #192
smokeyj wrote: post #184

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Did you know walking is the leading cause of taxi cab unemployment? You should really consider the ugly nature of walking next time you decide not to cab it up. Taxis cost money, and their kids eat food.

The difference between taking a taxi and walking are significant. For your analogy to work you must alter it in one of two ways: 1. You hijack the taxi and demand the driver take you to your destination for free. This creates an equivalent or better experience for the consumer at zero or near-zero cost. 2. Instead of clicking a button and watching 12 Years a Slave, you get a crudely animated version pieced together b…

The reason I think my analogy applies is because "pirating" costs cameramen nothing. You can measure their net worth before and after I pirate a movie and it will be the same. The same is not true of bumming a taxi ride.

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Post by meerita »

res0nat0r wrote: post #170
quadrangle wrote: post #116

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> it should not be so easy to benefit from someone else's hard work without compensating them. Nonsense. I benefit from the work of Mozart and feel no need to compensate anyone. There are real issues with funding mechanisms and creative work in a shareable digital world, but we can reject the idea that you should always pay for anything that is beneficial. If you want to give gifts to creative folks you like, you can…

So do you tell your boss he is free to pay or not pay you based on his mood for the week? And you are Ok with that yes?

Sorry, but you're not paying the studio for watching a movie. The cinemas are paying the studios for having the right, to charge, whatever they want for you to consume movies. It's the theathers, the netflixs who put the final consuming price on something, you're just paying them, not the guy who worked in the sound system for that movie, or the guy who made the logo of the movie, he was payed, and for sure, not so equally as everyone in here are claiming to be paid.

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Post by steeve »

nextstep wrote: post #81

This app is fantastic. It really is a huge win for usability. I downloaded the app and was watching "12 Years a Slave" in less than 30 seconds. I hope they add TV shows with a nice interface for browsing seasons.

Try http://forum.xbmc.org/showthread.php?tid=174736

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Post by steeve »

gabriel34 wrote: post #60

Stream for torrents is extremely damaging to the swarm, specially for new torrents. It breaks the protocol and may end up killing itself. Picture a case of major success for this: At Prime Time there is a rush of people streaming from a torrent, acquiring the same pieces of the torrent without servers to counterbalance the upload speed of people with the complete files can't stream the file in real time to a few peop…

This is a real issue indeed. First of all, in XBMCtorrent, I'm using libtorrent-rasterbar, which is _very_ optimized for the swarm.

Second, seeding in enforced during playback, to "give back".

Third, there is a time randomization in which hot spots (pieces who are big demand) are also the ones who are the most shared (since everybody is seeding these).

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Post by [deleted] »

humanrebar wrote: post #204
res0nat0r wrote: post #199

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Actually you do. You pay the price they ask to consume their content, or you don't consume it. Hence why doing so without paying is illegal.

I don't have any continuous contractual relationships with any studios like I do with my employer. Maybe Netflix or HBO would qualify, but they don't charge their customer per unit, so it doesn't really apply here either.

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