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Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by grmarcil »

Marazan wrote: post #119
coldtea wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For at least 15 years or so, that's just cargo cult BS Europeans who haven't tried automatic transmission cars say.

I drove a new Vauxhall Corsa with automatic transmission a couple of months ago. It was the second worst driving experience of my life.

Very low cost automatic transmissions are terrible - the gap between gear shifts goes on for ages. The Vauxhall Corsa is an example of this; for the American market check out a Smart Car.

Is this really a good argument against automatics though? The worst example of anything is usually going to be pretty bad.

As a matter of current economics, yes, if you have a very tight budget and want a good driving experience, manual is going to be better. But automatics are as fast and as efficient as manuals a little higher up the market. And it will trickle down soon enough.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by gress »

belorn wrote: post #169
archagon wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Saying that Apple is good at "gaining widespread adoption" is kind of like saying that J. K. Rowling is good at "being read".

If J. K. Rowling had only copied other books and stories, then yes, that would have been a good description.

You can't expect this to be taken seriously.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by frik »

furyofantares wrote: post #110
frik wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voice control works fine in Windows Automotive since at least 2008 [1]. Remember both Microsoft and Apple are using the same voice technology and sound libraries from Nuance Communication [2]. You can change the radio, mp3-playlist, do phone calls, listen the SMS, etc., though the internet enabled services are missing in older editions. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Automotive [2] http://en.wikipe…

Are you sure it's the same tech? It very well could be, but scroll down on that page to mergers and acquisitions, Nuance seemingly buys every company it can in that space. So they actually have a wide variety of tech and perhaps deals associated with them that predate acquisitions.

Yes, it's based on former DragonDictate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DragonDictate

The following product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturallySpeaking

Microsoft Auto uses it http://www.nuance.com/company/news-room/press-releases/ND_00... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sync

And Apple's Siri is Nuance Dragon NaturallySpeaking cloud service.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by frik »

furyofantares wrote: post #110
frik wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Voice control works fine in Windows Automotive since at least 2008 [1]. Remember both Microsoft and Apple are using the same voice technology and sound libraries from Nuance Communication [2]. You can change the radio, mp3-playlist, do phone calls, listen the SMS, etc., though the internet enabled services are missing in older editions. [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Windows_Embedded_Automotive [2] http://en.wikipe…

Are you sure it's the same tech? It very well could be, but scroll down on that page to mergers and acquisitions, Nuance seemingly buys every company it can in that space. So they actually have a wide variety of tech and perhaps deals associated with them that predate acquisitions.

Yes, it's based on former DragonDictate: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DragonDictate

The following product: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NaturallySpeaking

Microsoft Auto uses it http://www.nuance.com/company/news-room/press-releases/ND_00... and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Sync

And Apple's Siri is Nuance Dragon NaturallySpeaking cloud service.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by coldtea »

Marazan wrote: post #119
coldtea wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For at least 15 years or so, that's just cargo cult BS Europeans who haven't tried automatic transmission cars say.

I drove a new Vauxhall Corsa with automatic transmission a couple of months ago. It was the second worst driving experience of my life.

How much of it was placebo? How much of it was "feeling out of control"?

"second worst driving experience" has nothing quantifiable.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by mzs »

valarauca1 wrote: post #161

The problem I see while this is great for consumers is IOS isn't a real-time OS. So it won't be able to manage car sensor data. This means it'll be a hard sell to auto-makers in the US since most want only 1 computer in the car (to do infotainment AND sensor control). This is the holy grail currently in infotainment systems. The only automaker moving in this direction currently is Ford by using blackberry's platform…

That's not holy grail at all, only one car manufacturer was pushing for that, and they have essentially given-up.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by coldtea »

hahainternet wrote: post #125
coldtea wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For at least 15 years or so, that's just cargo cult BS Europeans who haven't tried automatic transmission cars say.

Yeah dude it's totally because we haven't tried them. It's not because they're 'intelligent' pieces of shit with virtually no control or anything.

>It's not because they're 'intelligent' pieces of shit with virtually no control or anything.

Really, and you need control of what and for what?

Anything quantifiable?

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by deelowe »

ZanyProgrammer wrote: post #171
deelowe wrote: post #162

Earlier quoted context omitted.

My stepfather is a pilot. | but why do you think planes and other complex machinery have stuck with physical controls They haven't. Most new planes and retrofits are moving to touchscreens. It allows the pilot to display only the important information on screen at a given time. Like the airport map, for example.

But the yoke, pedals, etc are not touch screen.

huh? Are you claiming that they are in the case of this car interface?

Also, this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Airbus_A380_cockpit.jpg

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by bsder »

archagon wrote: post #43
GuiA wrote: post #34

Yay, more touch screen in cars. More ways to distract, frustrate and confuse users who are operating a big box of steel weighing 3 tons and going at speeds the human brain has never evolved to appropriately deal with. 1) Not only are touch screens a very poor interactor in the first place [0], but why do you think planes and other complex machinery have stuck with physical controls? For operating complex vehicles/app…

Do you seriously think we'll have widespread self-driving cars — and not just the bare bones technology, but ones that we can ride in without any control at all, even while intoxicated — within a timespan short enough for every other advancement in car technology to not matter? I am almost 100% certain that we won't see that kind of thing even within the next few decades, if ever. Self-driving cars have way too many…

> Do you seriously think we'll have widespread self-driving cars — and not just the bare bones technology, but ones that we can ride in without any control at all, even while intoxicated — within a timespan short enough for every other advancement in car technology to not matter?

Yes. Without question. It's a process that has an exponential adoption curve to it.

The benefits from self-driving cars are so enormous its ridiculous.

Productivity goes up, so for any entrepreneur, a self-driving car will become a necessity (no more wasting an hour of unproductive work to get to the airport, for example). Pollution goes down because self-driving cars have to be electric. Self-driving cars can go recharge themselves at a nearby central charging station instead of requiring expensive charging stations at every company. Parking can be decentralized (somewhat, eventually you have to cope with self-driving cars causing a mini rush hour when they come get their passengers). You don't need "long term" parking anywhere. You can take your bike to work, but call your car in if it rains.

It might not cause the revolution that the Internet has, but it's gonna be damn close.

Re: Apple CarPlay

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Post by mzs »

emeidi wrote: post #77
aadilrazvi wrote: post #64

Seems strange to me that you still have to plug in your iPhone. Nowhere does it say that you can connect via Bluetooth.

Does Bluetooth have the necessary throughput to send 1-3 MP of graphics data with approx. 10+ FPS to a car LCD display? Even if this was possible, it would drain your phone's battery considerably, which means you have to plug in your phone nevertheless to let it charge. Aside, attaching the iPhone via cable will be straight and much less cumbersome and error prone than pairing over Bluetooth.

No it doesn't and it would drain the battery anyway, plugging in is sensible, plus then it can charge the device.
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