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Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by jlarocco »

egypturnash wrote: post #152
jlarocco wrote: post #140

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have to agree. I fought with it a while, looking for third party utilities to fill the void, but eventually I realized it was more trouble than it was worth and gave up. I guess I got used to it, because I don't even miss them any more.

If you want to change command key-centric menu shortcuts for a program, you can do that in the keyboard pane of system prefs.

No. In Linux I have global keyboard shortcuts to launch specific applications and do some other stuff. I hit a key combo and a new terminal pops up, or a new tab pops up in my browser, or a new email, or the Python shell, or whatever else I want. It launches regardless of what other application I'm currently using.

In OSX, last time I looked (maybe a version or two ago), there was really no builtin way to achieve the same thing. Command+Space then typing what I want to open is pretty close, but way more keystrokes, and not as powerful.

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Post by drewblay »

natural219 wrote: post #168
guelo wrote: post #118

After making the switch to OS X in the last couple years after living in Linux and Windows before that, I think it's objective to say that keyboard shortcuts in OS X are much worse in both ease of use and consistency across applications.

Sorry, but this is laughable. Keyboard shortcuts are far more useful and consistent across applications in OS X. I'm failing to understand how you could form this opinion...which shortcuts / programs don't meet your expectations? I guess I can sum this up by saying OS X has an additional modifier key than Windows, so you basically have 33% more power right out of the gate. The "Windows Key" is nearly useless.

I couldn't agree with you more! I used to be (a long time ago) a avid Windows user, and scoffed at Mac's. I then got into the publishing world where everything is Mac. The keyboard shortcuts are by far much more consistent and easier on OS X. I am scratching my head wondering how anyone could ever come up with a different conclusion, the difference is night and day.

Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by IgorPartola »

ebzlo wrote: post #230
IgorPartola wrote: post #223

Doesn't work on iTerm2, which y'all should be using anyways. Besides being infinitely more configurable, and getting tabs right, it's also much faster when you are printing a bunch of text. No idea why OS X Terminal is so slow when it comes to this, but it's actually painful to `cat` a file of more than a thousand lines.

I don't cat files too often in my workflow so I guess I don't have that pain point, but I find find iTerm2 has this minor annoying latency (kind of like typing on a wireless keyboard on low battery) that ultimately drove me away from it.

Odd. I have never experienced that problem. I don't cat files, but I list git diff output, view log files, etc. Even a large-ish git blame introduces a noticeable lag.

Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by alexk7 »

kabdib wrote: post #169
guelo wrote: post #118

After making the switch to OS X in the last couple years after living in Linux and Windows before that, I think it's objective to say that keyboard shortcuts in OS X are much worse in both ease of use and consistency across applications.

After using OS X for a few months, I weep every time I use the commandline on Windows. There's just no reason for Windows to be that bad.

Did you try Powershell?

Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by drewblay »

randomsearch wrote: post #199
podperson wrote: post #192

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Paste and match formatting" shouldn't be necessary for most programs, and isn't a platform standard. Paste is command-V. A sensible application should do the most likely thing the user wants with paste and overload the shortcut for weird stuff. The fact that Microsoft consistently does the weird thing by default isn't a platform problem with the Mac, just with Word. Now you could point out Pages has the same shortcu…

> "Paste and match formatting" shouldn't be necessary for most programs, and isn't a platform standard. If I copy and paste from a web browser, sometimes I want the formatting and sometimes I don't. It's not an usual case. Places where I use this shortcut include Word, Evernote and Mail. It's just not a sensible key combination.

>If I copy and paste from a web browser, sometimes I want the formatting

The default SHOULD be to lose the formatting of the original and to use the font/style that is in Word. I would think that 99% of time anyone is copying and pasting into Word this is their intended result.

I agree with the other post, it is incredibly stupid to have it keep formatting from the original by default.

Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by bhaile »

IgorPartola wrote: post #223

Doesn't work on iTerm2, which y'all should be using anyways. Besides being infinitely more configurable, and getting tabs right, it's also much faster when you are printing a bunch of text. No idea why OS X Terminal is so slow when it comes to this, but it's actually painful to `cat` a file of more than a thousand lines.

Works for me on iTerm2.

Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by krrrh »

natural219 wrote: post #168
guelo wrote: post #118

After making the switch to OS X in the last couple years after living in Linux and Windows before that, I think it's objective to say that keyboard shortcuts in OS X are much worse in both ease of use and consistency across applications.

Sorry, but this is laughable. Keyboard shortcuts are far more useful and consistent across applications in OS X. I'm failing to understand how you could form this opinion...which shortcuts / programs don't meet your expectations? I guess I can sum this up by saying OS X has an additional modifier key than Windows, so you basically have 33% more power right out of the gate. The "Windows Key" is nearly useless.

Not to mention that the Mac community also pioneered keyboard driven launchers and Linguistic user interfaces like launchbar -> quicksilver -> Alfred. Even though I put a lot of effort into learning windows keyboard shortcuts it always frustrated me how difficult it was to use windows in situations where I didn't have a mouse, while I'd barely notice the same situation with a Mac.

Re: Quick tip for developers who use OS X

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Post by mariusmg »

actf wrote: post #128
mikeroher wrote: post #6

Two more tips: * Ctrl-a to go to beginning of line * Ctrl-e to go to end of line

I love how osx supports emacs key-bindings by default for any text field. I miss this feature a lot when I switch back to windows. I find myself pressing ctrl-n in my browser's address bar, expecting to view my URL history, and instead I get a new windows. If anyone knows of a way to get similar functionality in windows, I would love to hear about it!

Cltr + D to focus on address bar. Alt + down arrow to view history.
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