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Silk Road 2.0 Launches

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1. I am against illegal drugs. It is up to the society to have a consent whether x drug should be legal or not. For example, marijuana. 2. Liability and safety. It's safer to assume your pharmacist is giving the right drug and the right amount and the right quality. I am all for reducing the cost and I think we should lower the cost whenever possible, but getting through silk road because it's cheaper/easier to get d…

I, too am against illegal drugs like heroin, but I believe legalizing all drugs would help everyone, both the addicts and normal people. Taking away the black market would reduce crime and stop the flow of money into powerful crime organizations. The addict would benefit from cleaner drugs and would not have to break the law to get their fix. I have seen heroin ruin people's lives and I wish with all my heart that it…

> I have seen heroin ruin people's lives and I wish with all my heart that it could be eradicated.

Not disagreeing with you, but I (personally) have seen far more people's lives ruined by legal drugs such as alcohol, tobacco and various painkillers than I've seen from hard/illegal drugs (heroin/crack/cannabis/etc).

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I'd never buy heroin from a website, but I see the Silk Road as cyber-civil-disobedience, and I hope the persona of DPR and the site itself are as unsinkable as they claim. The drug war is a ghastly thing, and the number of people we lock up in the US is more shameful than our foreign policy. You can begrudge the first DPR his lame security, shady murder contracts, and ill-gotten fortune, but he's the product of our…

The current DPR is allegedly the third one, and the one in jail is the second, as he said in an interview with Forbes.

I am beginning to see the significance of the name "Dread Pirate Roberts".

In The Princess Bride, http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0093779/ it was actually a title that was handed down, and the current Dread Pirate Roberts is the third one.

The Princess Bride has wonderfully quotable dialogue, e.g. "Have you ever considered piracy? You'd make a wonderful Dread Pirate Roberts."

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There is no certainty of anonymity, especially in Mexico, for two reasons. First, drug cartels have very easily control of the IT infrastructures, and second, they now employ hackers exactly to keep the internet information under control. They've killed several bloggers already, and you can be sure they thought they were anonymous.

The cartels can employ all the hackers and torture all the bloggers they want but it will still be very hard to find sellers on SilkRoad. You will need to break Tor, trace BitCoins, trace deliveries, or trick sellers. This takes national or even international resources (NSA, FBI, Interpol, etc.). And they will have to do this in the US and Europe not Mexico.

>it will still be very hard to find sellers on SilkRoad.

Apparently not hard enough. It is being done in Europe already.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Six-More-Silk-Road-Drug-Deale...

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>> it's not at the point where it would be realistic to have them say "here is a list of a few hundred usernames from SilkRoad spread out all over North America. Find them and murder them all." This is not exact, unfortunately, because it depends also on some other factors. If the drug lords decide that they want to impose the fact that they don't accept opposition, they are actually going to do exactly that. They've…

"They've done it already for several bloggers" as in people that blog about drugs? Could you elaborate?

Here's one example. Googling for something like "cartel kills social media activist" will probably yield more.

http://techland.time.com/2011/11/10/fourth-blogger-reportedl...

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Maybe I should clarify: it's one of the most directly irresponsible things I've seen unironically suggested here. If you don't see the irresponsibility of implicating an unknowing third-party in a serious life ruining felony, I don't know what to tell you. Given that this is most likely filled with vendors who are either agents or guys who have been popped and are now confidential informants, your statistics are way…

If you want to see really un-ironic irresponsible ideas, go read the post on the anarchist solution to healthcare. I'll give you the tl;dr: anonymous healthcare for bitcoins.

I try to avoid anything that would bring the bitcoin crowd out, or I might have an aneurysm.

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Do you ever buy anything at grocery store, drug store, restaurant that you put in your body? There is risk in everything. Generally people aren't sociopaths and aren't out to harm others. Risk is minimal but exists. Sellers on Silkroad do have reputation? Anonymous does not mean "unknown".

> Do you ever buy anything at grocery store, drug store, restaurant that you put in your body? Not really a fair comparison. If a grocery store assaults or defrauds you, you have legal recourse. There is nothing you can do if an illicit transaction fails. The rest of what you say is true, of course.

Not the grocery store, the guy at some factory somewhere that peas into the soup that eventually makes it way to your shelf.

Point is there is a huge web of people everybody trusts to not be evil. They are trusted for no good reason (other than as stated most people aren't sociopaths). But some are. Protecting against them isn't worth the tiny risk of exposure.

Likewise fretting over being "defrauded" by anonymous (but reputed) persons whom you buy illicit goods from is not worth worrying about. Same with ebay, kickstarter etc.

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Is there a place he could run this from and be safe? Like a country without extradition where it would be difficult for US gov to come in and arrest you anyway. The single dumbest thing the last DPR did was continue living in the US

I don't remember the exact details, but I don't think that was DPR's mistake. I thought he had ordered some fake passports that were intercepted.

He also promoted the site from a forum account with his real name and real name gmail account in another post.

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I don't remember the exact details, but I don't think that was DPR's mistake. I thought he had ordered some fake passports that were intercepted.

He also promoted the site from a forum account with his real name and real name gmail account in another post.

True, that was very stupid. But, if he were in a place where the US gov couldn't operate, that wouldn't have really mattered

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Half-day trip on san pedro in college... good times

try camping in Joshua Tree with a ziplock of peyote buttons and a gallon bottle of cactus juice. I lost my fucking mind there in the desert sand, and then found it two days later, in better condition than when I left it.

haha I can appreciate that

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Yesterday my cousin was found dead. He had committed suicide. It was the end of a long battle he had been waging against himself. Drugs have destroyed this small part of my family, but i'm really glad to see something like the silk road revitalized. I think the sooner we realize how fleeting a battle it is to fight them, the sooner we can place the money where it belongs. My cousin is dead now, but I think my tax mon…

I've been an active Libertarian for several years now, and just looking at the countless stories I've heard like this leads me to hold the same belief as you do. It truly is tragic the way many people are simply thrown in a cell rather than helped with what is clearly an illness. Addiction itself is not a choice. Using a drug is, but the consequences that follow oftentimes cannot be overcome. I'm sorry for your loss.

It truly is tragic the way many people are simply thrown in a cell rather than helped with what is clearly an illness.

So true. The privatization of jails in the US seems to be the root cause of this. Private jails want to increase profits, so they lobby for “3 strikes” laws that play well for politicians who want to seem “tough on crime”. The end result is a lot more people in jail, but without the reduction in crime and certainly absent of actually helping people stop their drug habits.

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