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I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by [deleted] »

josefresco wrote: post #81
potatolicious wrote: post #7

Hipster-hate strikes me as just another thinly veiled form of bullying, and it's interesting to see how readily internet nerds - the people who are disproportionately to have been bullied in the past - engage in it. Look! He's different! Let's make assumptions about his motivations and get him! It's also interesting to see how many times Reddit (and other communities) fly into a rage-fest because of lack of context,…

Author summarizes the rage quite well: "The reaction, then, had nothing to do with hipsters. It was a hatred of people that need to stand out for standing-out's sake. That realization was at once positive and negative—people didn't hate me because I was a hipster, they hated me because I looked like I was nakedly desperate for attention, and had gone about that attention-grabbing by glomming on to marginalized trends…

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Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by scoot »

techtalsky wrote: post #158

Kind of recently, a close friend of mine took a picture of him and his wife explaining something to their dog: http://i.imgur.com/bfpOGYK.jpg They're the sweetest, coolest, most open-minded people and I adore them. They're not trying to act like they're better or more stylish than anyone else, but the level of "hipster hate" they got in the thread was just intense.

I'm trying hard not to descend to the level of the hipster haters, but while I don't see anything pretentious or stylish or cool, it does come across as a tad absurd. Dogs are smart, but not that smart.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by __david__ »

heartbreak wrote: post #143
roryokane wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He said later in the article that his clothes were a function of budgetary constraints. Maybe he couldn't afford well-fitting glasses.

I understand everyone has their own financial priorities, but I personally would prioritize my glasses over purchasing an iPhone (clearly visible in the first picture in the article). That being said, I'd also live in an area with a more favorable cost-of-living if I needed to busk in order to make ends meet. Though he clearly enjoys busking, and he can do as he pleases. Point being his comment about budgetary constr…

Not me. I refuse to pay more than about $30 for glasses. I hate them—hate that they exist, hate the way they look, and hate that my optical organs are sub par enough to require them. Why should I spend a bunch of money on something I hate so much? I'll happily drop $2500 for a laptop and the $3000 I spent on LASIK was money well spent, but no glasses in the world are worth more than a couple bucks. To me.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by lmm »

EvanKelly wrote: post #164
Dylan16807 wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they actually enjoy what they're doing, and not the feeling of being 'counterculture', then they're not being "hipsters". It's pretty simple.

What's wrong with enjoying the feeling of being counterculture? This whole anti-hipster sentiment is so bizarre to me. It's all about policing other peoples' fashion/taste/activities without reason. The idea that hipsters are somehow not genuine doesn't make any sense. What is there to be genuine to ? If you use an old film camera because you like the photos it takes and are fascinated by how it operates, more power…

It undermines genuine counterculture movements. When you have a lot of people who will act like they support a certain idea until questioned about it, and then duck away saying they were just being ironic, the result is that no-one takes anyone seriously. It's bad for the same reasons as bumper stickers, or protest groups who do nothing but stupid stunts.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by hudibras »

scoot wrote: post #232
techtalsky wrote: post #158

Kind of recently, a close friend of mine took a picture of him and his wife explaining something to their dog: http://i.imgur.com/bfpOGYK.jpg They're the sweetest, coolest, most open-minded people and I adore them. They're not trying to act like they're better or more stylish than anyone else, but the level of "hipster hate" they got in the thread was just intense.

I'm trying hard not to descend to the level of the hipster haters, but while I don't see anything pretentious or stylish or cool, it does come across as a tad absurd. Dogs are smart, but not that smart.

I'm going to unilaterally say that this thread is a one-time exception to the "HN is not Reddit" rule and post this: http://i.imgur.com/3Gpey.jpg

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by jlgreco »

bolder88 wrote: post #222
jlgreco wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

These are not special reddit features, you can make generalizations about any group of people that isn't randomly chosen. That doesn't mean that "the group of people in your office building" or "the group of people in your neighborhood / town / state / country" or "the group of people that you bowl with" or "the group of people in your extended family" are "hiveminds" though. That is like accusing this piece of grani…

The problem with any collection of people though, is popular opinion is rewarded, unpopular opinion is shot down. That means people tend to go with the crowd - hivemind.

"That means people tend to go with the crowd - hivemind."

Or you know, standard social dynamics that have existed since our ancestors first figured out how to vocalize opinions. The very silly label you are giving it serves no purpose other than to vilify it for the sake of making yourself out to be superior.

Lots of people disagree with you, meaning you do not get to enjoy having lots of people agree with you, meaning that clearly they are all a bunch of Borg with no sense of individuality. Give me a break.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by te_chris »

yareally wrote: post #204
jlgreco wrote: post #193

Earlier quoted context omitted.

PBR is very cheap, and actually very tolerable when you are in the market for cheap American lagers. Before it got a reputation for being "hipster" it was a popular "blue collar" beer, and for good reason. I'd call it better than Budweiser, worse than Coors. Certainly better than the other heavyweight in 'cheap booze that young people drink': Natural Light. For some reason drinking natty light is not seen to be as da…

Good points. I think they're all pretty awful (relatively speaking, if one is doing more than getting plastered), but somehow only the one gets the negative connotation. Though, I will admit my early college years I did drink them all at some point regrettably, even at least one PBR that I know of offhand.

Outside of America I can assure that bud and miller both have very negative connotations ;)

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by brianpgordon »

xvolter wrote: post #136
jmduke wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Reddit is visited by tens of millions of people of virtually every demographic. Corralling them as "internet nerds" seems a bit like you're trying for some bullying yourself. The post to which you're replying didn't even mention Reddit. Reddit is by no means the only place where a nerdy demographic (and I'll define 'nerdy demographic' as 18-25 that skew towards STEM education and exhibit above-average internet usage)…

The article mentions Reddit being the place where C.D. Hermelin was textually abused for being a hipster; or more accurately, accused of being a hipster solely because he was using a typewriter. Reddit is the only place where the internet nerds in discussion come from. Reddit however is not made up of internet nerds. Reddit is made up of average joes who know enough about computers to register at facebook and reddit.…

Reddit is a heterogeneous collection of wildly different subreddits. Some subreddits (/r/pics, /r/funny, /r/WTF) are "average" as you described, but others have different demographics.

Re: I Am An Object Of Internet Ridicule, Ask Me Anything

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Post by notReallyGuy »

brokenparser wrote: post #89

(Emphasis mine) ..it was dozens of someones—*faceless and impossible to control* Strike 1. I asked...if she would *let me read a draft before she sent it* to her editor... ...I ranted back to her, *mad that she hadn’t sent me the article* Strike 2. ...the hipster label is a compliment, a devotion to a *self- evident truth* Strike 3. This guy isn't hipster, he's sinister.

Please explain how the internet is not populated a teeming mass of faceless opportunists, deliberately avoiding any and all efforts to be controlled. You are fucking wrong.

Your fragments in strike two are literally paragraphs apart, and ignore huge details that add context. But even so, there's nothing evil about asking someone you know personally, when they've openly told you they're going to write about you, if you can read it before it goes live. And very obviously, they're both professional writers, so it's actually a pretty collegial courtesy that acquaintances extend to one another. It doesn't grant him any undue influence over her creative process. Asking for that isn't wrong.

And nothing but MEH for your third strike against the guy. Both of you are entitled to your opinions, and I'm entitled to my opinion of your opinions.

Your classification of "sinister" is head-up-your-ass unfounded, sir. You deserve more downvotes.

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