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Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by YokoZar »

Guvante wrote: post #227
lsiebert wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Money isn't static, and the interest isn't negligible. Assuming you can get 1 % interest per month on the 32,000,000 before paying it out, that is still 320k. They can hold it for 2-3 months and pay their developers easily.

You can't get 1% interest risk free in a high-interest market, let alone the current one. If you try really hard you can get 1% a year without taking on risk. And you can't have any risk if you are going to be manufacturing phones with that money (sorry we don't have enough phones, we bet on Apple and their stock went down 20%).

US Government Treasury bonds have a 3.5% annual interest rate. I'm pretty sure that buying them does not require trying hard.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by fdm »

>We also believe the race for ever higher resolution has become a distraction. Beyond 300ppi you’re adding overhead rather than improving display clarity.

This isn't completely true, higher PPI improves readability (and looks) of the text that's written using more complex characters like Chinese Hanzi or Japanese Kanji even beyond that line at smaller distances. Here's an image that illustrates this:

http://cdn.physorg.com/newman/gfx/news/hires/2011/1-toshibab...

Not to mention it's useful for displaying 1080p without losing information.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by zanny »

ersii wrote: post #216
zanny wrote: post #198

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ubuntu is a very reasonable average joe OS. It is actually really crappy for gaming - when I was using Ubuntu at the Unity switch around 10.04, there were tons of absurd full screen and tearing bugs in games. Even now that most of that is fixed, Unity/compiz is still vastly outperformed by everything else when running full screen opengl apps. On Gnome / KDE I never encountered those.

I'd encourage you to try it again. I'm running Ubuntu 12.04 on my Dell XPS 13 (Sputnik Edition of course) - and I have no problems with playing Steam games. I havn't really had any problems playing any game that works on *NIX so far - not that there's all that many.. but still.

I switched to Arch a long while ago. I also prefer the KDE app suite, systemd, and pacman. I still like where Ubuntu is going, but KDE just has feature density I like. I just put relatives on Opensuse because tumbleweed is really solid.

I value that Canonical can bring people to *nix, but I like my customization and a lot of the magic that KDE can pull off. Also, I love writing QML + C++, though with Ubuntu transitioning to be qt focused I could get that anywhere.

I hope this means, more than anything, the year of qt is 2014, because I'd really like to get employed working in qml / qt projects.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by raphman »

audeyisaacs wrote: post #175
javis wrote: post #71

If the Ubuntu Edge reaches its goal of $32,000,000, Indiegogo makes $1,280,000 off it.

I wonder why they wouldn't just set up their own crowdfunding page for this project. Surely the effort would be worth $1,280,000.

Maybe they got a special deal.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by hacker789 »

audeyisaacs wrote: post #175
javis wrote: post #71

If the Ubuntu Edge reaches its goal of $32,000,000, Indiegogo makes $1,280,000 off it.

I wonder why they wouldn't just set up their own crowdfunding page for this project. Surely the effort would be worth $1,280,000.

I wouldn't be surprised if Indiegogo offered Canonical incentives to use their platform, and I wouldn't be surprised if those incentives include a significant reduction in fees.

For the next 30 days, the Indiegogo brand will be mentioned nearly every time Ubuntu Edge is discussed. That publicity alone is worth something.

But if this campaign somehow succeeds, Indiegogo will receive more than just another dose of (outrageously positive) publicity—they'll be forever known as the platform used to launched Ubuntu Edge.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by sspiff »

grey-area wrote: post #130
sho_hn wrote: post #104

Earlier quoted context omitted.

QML isn't XML-based. It's synxtax is compatible with ECMAScript and it allows embedding ECMAScript expressions and code (but it's style is generally declarative with procedural code discouraged). And it has a lot to offer over HTML. It has a better layout model for one, sane integration of concepts like animated property transitions and behaviors, makes it far easier to put custom objects backed by native code into t…

QML isn't XML-based. Thanks for the correction, I was thinking of xib, XAML, Activities etc. haven't used QML, though I have used Qt, a while ago now. One thing I do think HTML got right is to separate content and code, so putting my UI markup into a js-like format which potentially mixes in code is even less appealing :) Yes, you can jam everything into a HTML document somehow, but that doesn't mean it's always a pl…

I recently made a toy project with QML. It was my first Qt experience and I think I'll be using QML for just about any GUI I want to create in the future, it's a really clean and nice way of working.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by txutxu »

So how this works... ?

I fund, then Amazon tracks what I search by default on my machine ?

Or I fund and you FIGHT AGAINST a project maintained by voluntary people ?

OK, I 'll NOT fund you.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by _delirium »

YokoZar wrote: post #231
Guvante wrote: post #227

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You can't get 1% interest risk free in a high-interest market, let alone the current one. If you try really hard you can get 1% a year without taking on risk. And you can't have any risk if you are going to be manufacturing phones with that money (sorry we don't have enough phones, we bet on Apple and their stock went down 20%).

US Government Treasury bonds have a 3.5% annual interest rate. I'm pretty sure that buying them does not require trying hard.

The grandparent was talking about 1% per month, though. That would equate to (with compounding) a 12.5% annual interest rate, which no remotely safe financial instrument is paying.

Re: Ubuntu Edge

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Post by zbinga »

drcode wrote: post #11

Does anyone really still want a phone you can plug into a monitor? This would have been a dream product back before broadband and wifi became ubiquitous, and before extra PCs became so cheap. Nowadays, it seems like a much better design is to have multiple devices with different form factors that can access shared data via a cloud. (unless this product is meant as an NSA-proof system, but I don't see that it makes a…

Yes. I will be very happy to carry not only my data (as I do now) but my whole computer in my pocket, plug it into a keyboard and monitor at home and at work, and use the built-in screen (and perhaps a foldable bluetooth keyboard) elsewhere.

I know about the cloud. I distrust the cloud. The cloud is not for me.

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