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Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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Re: Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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Good luck. I don't see other countries innovating at even half the rate of the U.S. with tech stuff. Leaving the umbrella will be like turning out the lights. It gets boring and cold in the dark after a while.

That might change... and not only for reasons related to privacy. I live in EU and I remember that about two or three years ago every geek's wet dream was to get to Silicon Valley and build a startup. But that seems to be changing. I don't have any research to back it up - it's just some anecdotal evidence but many people now seem to consider alternatives like London or Chile... mostly because they are afraid of soft…

same thing here, a friend recently refused work, because he would have to physically go to USA (he loves seeing the world) - money was waaaay above EU.

Re: Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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post #189
post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Good luck. I don't see other countries innovating at even half the rate of the U.S. with tech stuff. Leaving the umbrella will be like turning out the lights. It gets boring and cold in the dark after a while.

That might change... and not only for reasons related to privacy. I live in EU and I remember that about two or three years ago every geek's wet dream was to get to Silicon Valley and build a startup. But that seems to be changing. I don't have any research to back it up - it's just some anecdotal evidence but many people now seem to consider alternatives like London or Chile... mostly because they are afraid of soft…

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Re: Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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Is it true that Google does not protect the rights of non-US users from having their emails read and copied by the NSA? If that is the case, then why would any foreigner ever use Gmail, Yahoo mail, Hotmail, etc?

because they are uninformed

Re: Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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Hey Europeans, does this mean your love affair with Skype is over?

Say, Skype is as private as talking in a crowded place (i.e. there's no privacy at all). Yet, we still talk outdoors.

So, I doubt Skype will get out of business. Sad but true.

Re: Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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There is intense debate about whether US citizens rights are being violated, but almost nobody questions whether there's any moral or ethical issue with completely unrestrained spying on everybody else. Almost nobody in the US, perhaps, but this whole mess isn't doing the US any favours at all with the international community, certainly not here in Europe. I'd say there's a fair chance the cavalier attitude towards t…

Let's hope so. The sooner the US gets marginalized and put on the shelf internationally, the sooner the world will become a safer place to live.

So those fleets of warships keeping shipping lanes open and free from pirate activity have done nothing for safety?

I'm not saying america is perfect, but if we scale back our navy for example, there is going to have to be a lot of slack for other countries to pick up. And that means costs rising and more taxes for others. As well as the chance of increased conflict.

The world isn't so cut and dry as you make it out to be.

Re: Did Obama Just Destroy the U.S. Internet Industry?

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It's odd, I hear people saying, "no big deal, nothing will change." But then I wonder, if you're saying it's no big deal, are you an American or not? The point of this pst is that foreign business will be affected, AFAICT, Europeans have always held the Internet to a stricter standard than Americans and have passed stricter laws around everything from what data can be retained to the behaviour of tracking cookies. If…

I'm Brazilian and in the corporate and government space there is considerable resistance to hosting systems and data outside our jurisdiction. What I don't think people have fully realized yet is that American companies are subject to the Patriot Act wherever the operate, so even data stored in Brazil might be exported by them to USA authorities without the customers being notified. I ask myself, how far does this extend? Not only to online services, but even to mainframes and storage systems? Application software? Operating systems?
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