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Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by jeroenhd »

rjh29 wrote: post #230
jeroenhd wrote: post #197

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think there are plenty of people like me who would like to try one, but don't feel like spending multiple months of rent on the privilege of doing so. I'm holding off for the coming while with the current RAM prices keeping phones incredibly expensive, but in five or six years when my current phone goes EOL I hope to see affordable options.

Second hand zfold 4 was 600 quid when I bought it a few years ago. Hardly "multiple months of rent".

A second hand pixel is a quarter of that. A four year old second hand phone being worth as much as a new midrange phone still makes these devices a bad deal, especially with the Z Fold 4 receiving no more security updates within a year.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by alance »

the__alchemist wrote: post #211
harrouet wrote: post #104

I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

I'm with you brother/sister. It is a tragedy that even with the diaspora of Android makers and models, we can't get anything like it. I hung onto my Pixel 4 for years; bought a new Pixel 4 after too many screen cracks and battery deterioration; used that until it stopped working for mobile payments (security reasons or something), then finally caved and bought a 10. I don't need a Pixel. An iPhone would be fine. Or a…

The pixel 5 ticks a lot of the same boxes as the pixel 4 btw. Similar form factor, but bigger battery and wireless charging. Plus if you install florisboard from f-droid you can customize a one-handed mode for the keyboard, which works quite well.

Also this: https://lineage.microg.org/ so you can run a less-google-ish phone, but also run maps if need be.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by jonathanlydall »

harrouet wrote: post #104

I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

I also had this worry when moving from an iPhone 8 (or something) to a 14.

But you can use a swipe down gesture on the white bar at the bottom of the screen which pulls the whole thing down, bringing the top part of the screen easily in reach of your thumb.

I use my phone one handed very often.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by carljungslabtek »

nkrisc wrote: post #168
princevegeta89 wrote: post #87

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Folding phones aren't going away; they're becoming more mainstream. The initial versions of folding phones that came out five or six years ago had issues and some aspects that weren't addressed. But we are literally in the sixth or seventh generation of folding phones, and Samsung has basically perfected them. If you think the durability is bad, think again, because they are very, very durable. I use a Z Fold 6, and…

> The outer screen is pretty small and very usable with one hand. Cool. I want one like that, just without the inner screen.

I submitted a long product suggestion to apple a couple years ago for an iPhone nano but they still haven’t taken me up on it lol.

They were mad the mini was a financial flop but like come on, they didn’t try to market it as a lifestyle device really at all, which is the key. “Think Different”, right? It’s easy. So bummed their first foldable is gonna cost 2 grand or whatever and not be a flip phone with an outer screen. I would pay a crazy amount of money but not for something that unfolds into a freaking iPad mini…

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Post by jawilson2 »

frollogaston wrote: post #91
annzabelle wrote: post #84

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I tried switching to iphone briefly (lifelong nexus/pixel user) because I hate using iphones. I didn't end up holding out very long and I switched back to android after a couple of weeks, and in the switch back, apple screwed up my texting and I wasn't able to receive texts from iphone users for over a month. Maybe I should go back and do that again. The typing experience on iphone is so poor that it made commenting…

Well it may work, cause at some point Apple permanently messed up how the iPhone keyboard works. I cannot spell anything on the iPhone 12 mini I use every day, but if I pick up my old 5 that's been sitting unused for years, it feels fine.

This is definitely a thing. I thought I was just getting old, but I am almost incapable of writing a word without mistyping now. It always registers neighboring letters.

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Post by vablings »

shaklee3 wrote: post #75
frollogaston wrote: post #71

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Texting is the single most important feature on a phone. Also it's not Apple's fault that MMS was terrible for years and now RCS is still terrible. Google also tried to make their own proprietary chat and failed... like 10 times. But more importantly, I don't care, this is not my battle. I'd use WhatsApp if that's what people did here, not that I like it any better.

RCS is not terrible. Apple's implementation of RCS is terrible.

I have had no issue with RCS as an iPhone user

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

the__alchemist wrote: post #211
harrouet wrote: post #104

I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

I'm with you brother/sister. It is a tragedy that even with the diaspora of Android makers and models, we can't get anything like it. I hung onto my Pixel 4 for years; bought a new Pixel 4 after too many screen cracks and battery deterioration; used that until it stopped working for mobile payments (security reasons or something), then finally caved and bought a 10. I don't need a Pixel. An iPhone would be fine. Or a…

Unihertz sells several small Android phones still, they are just very niche

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by wilsonnb3 »

jonathanlydall wrote: post #233
harrouet wrote: post #104

I remain an irreductible fan of the one-hand theory, and therefore stick with an iPhone 13 mini. I might be late at the folding-phone revolution. Alas it seems we won't see any such phone that fits in a pant's pocket and that can be operated single-handedly. I am afraid that the 13 mini is the last of its kind. Yet many reports of people dropping their gigantic phones. Maybe that's a business model after all.

I also had this worry when moving from an iPhone 8 (or something) to a 14. But you can use a swipe down gesture on the white bar at the bottom of the screen which pulls the whole thing down, bringing the top part of the screen easily in reach of your thumb. I use my phone one handed very often.

I really like the Samsung version of this, it shrinks the whole screen down into one of the bottom corners

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Post by dbbk »

whywhywhywhy wrote: post #170
rf15 wrote: post #25

> trapped in a shape everyone else seems to be moving on from. Really not sure if we were ever there. Foldable phones still feel like a novelty that is expensive and fragile, among other tradeoffs. Also moving on to what, exactly? The regular slate form factor is what people buy, and have been for years at this point.

This article is extremely poorly written and has the assumption we all very deep in folding phone lore and can read the writers mind. I think there's some new folding phone aspect ratio ("passport sized"?) that's more popular but the article never really explains which one they're talking about. Don't think it means moving away from folding in general.

I have literally never seen a folding phone 'in the wild'. I'm interested! But it's certainly nowhere on the mainstream radar.

Re: Pixel 11 Pro Fold feels like the end of an era

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Post by drunkonvinyl »

belinder wrote: post #8

I drop my phone a lot, I have a great case for it so not a scratch after 6 years. I am interested in getting the foldable but apparently the cases don't protect the hinge or let dirt get in? Anyone have experience with this? Maybe I'm not the right audience, too clumsy

i like this one...and it does have _some_ hinge protection. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0F498PG6P?ref=fed_asin_title&th=1
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