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GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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After using Claude for a long time, I tested Sol 5.6 for the first time today. Love it, its an incredibly capable model and uses far fewer tokens/time thinking. Its what I imagine Fable would be if I haven't been downgraded on every conversation - even after completing the verification program. I think I may cancel my Claude subscription finally.

Sol is way too eager to hone in on small details and ends up with massive over-engineering. Fable does it too - to be fair - but noticeably less. After extensively using both on Max 20x plans, I've concluded that Fable is better for problem solving and coding, whereas Sol 5.6 Ultra shines in debugging specific issues: tackle a problem with Fable then leverage Sol to clean up, double check, or fix specific issues. Fab…

Yeah, I very much agree on this. I think Sol and Fable code quality is on par. Maybe Fable is just a tiny bit better, but Sol compensates with its ability to work through things, while Fable, in my experience, generally tends to avoid solving problems that require many LOC.

However, I think these are very different models in terms of orchestration. Long-horizon tasks are way more predictable with Fable. It just doesn't lose track of details. Thus I ended up building a small wrapper around Pi (where I run Sol) so that CC can delegate via background tasks, automatically wait for completion, and do what was one of the most effective parts - steer Sol toward simplicity, getting Sol out of code-review infinite loops (Pi calls for Codex review to ship better, but generally gets stuck on P2 and results in vastly overengineered work).

One of the worst experiments was enforcing coverage at 100%. Only Sol, with an enormous amount of code and significant pushback (on architecture decisions) to Fable, was able to reach it. It made me think this is somehow related to overengineering in general, so that instructions on acceptance criteria in claude.md plus proper DX (e.g., Lefthook) actually led to okay results. It mostly helped that responsibilities were clearly split: Fable designs architecture, Sol handles coding and debugging.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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I’ve never had it refuse anything. Even vulnerability searching in my codebase.

Yeah I feel like I'm living in a different dimension than these people. I wonder what they're working on. I've literally never had it refuse everything and I max out my 20x plan every week

Can I ask which country you're in? I have a theory that the safeguards differ depending on the user's country.

I'm in Australia, and Fable downgrades to Opus when testing for bugs in memory in a legacy C code base. If Fable starts taking initiative and writes a test case that involves writing to a null pointer, that's the end of the conversation.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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1. You do not know what they're using it for. 2. Get off your high horse please. 3. Immoral my ass.

> Immoral my ass. Is any amount of tokenmaxxing moral?

Is any form of energy usage moral?

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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I can’t sign up for that. I tried authorizing Codex a couple days ago. For some reason, their system says my phone number has been used for verification 3 times even though it definitely has not. I’ve had this phone number for over 20 years. OpenAI support is useless. They just keep repeating the policy without actually helping me.

Use TextVerified, load up like $5 of credit and OAI verification is like $1.00. Then when your account is made, ensure 2FA/passkey is setup then you don't need to worry about the phone number.

Thanks for that tip!

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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I’ve never had it refuse anything. Even vulnerability searching in my codebase.

Yeah I feel like I'm living in a different dimension than these people. I wonder what they're working on. I've literally never had it refuse everything and I max out my 20x plan every week

As one random example, today I had it hit a refusal loop when adding a country selector dropdown to a form, presumably because it contained a “bad” country name? I hit refusals at least 2-3 times per day, sometimes many more. The worst part is it is often right in the middle of a multi-stage task, so the only option is really to switch to Opus 5 and let it defecate its absurdly verbose comments all over the rest of the edits in the turn and hope it doesn’t go on one of its tangents, then have Sol do damage control. Oh and I got approved for their “cyber verification program” blessing, which comically does absolutely nothing for Fable.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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Yes but Sol dropping in price by 50% is not OpenRouter deciding. It's OpenAI.

I don’t think that’s true. OpenAI docs don’t have this price change. I assume they’d be the source for this post if it was true. The banner on OpenRouter for me says Gemini 3.7 discounted for a limited time, but if I click through that I get to this page: https://openrouter.ai/models?discount=true That shows a bunch of models, including Sol, with a discount. None of them say how long it’s for, but I’d assume in all t…

OpenRouter margins are not 50%.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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I feel like those examples are considered difficult because they're niche topics, but aren't actually all that difficult in a general sense. What I consider truly difficult are things like taking a ticket and implementing it in a preexisting codebase, using a clean and reasonable design that fits the existing style and makes sense to a human, and avoids the footguns I learned by working with the codebase for over a d…

This is true in some sense. Getting the AI to output code that you like is difficult. As an example, let's say in React you have a "useLocale()" hook. The AI will happily pass down locale as a prop to 5 child components instead of just calling the hook in the component. A review from another model did not flag such stylistic issues either. I believe that the latest models are very good at functionally achieving the g…

I use the AGENTS.md to show it how i want the code to look like. Something like "when implementing hooks adhere to the guidelines in docs/react-hooks.md". And then react-hooks describes your heuristics and what you consider best practices. There is a clear difference in code quality for me when using codex with a well crafted AGENTS.md vs. without one, you can run the experiment yourself pretty easily. As I mentioned in another comment, I think Claude poisoned users to stop relying on their Claude.md files and new codex users might be surprised at how well it adheres to guidelines.

Re: GPT-5.6 Sol Pricing Cut by 50% on OpenRouter

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I don’t think that’s true. OpenAI docs don’t have this price change. I assume they’d be the source for this post if it was true. The banner on OpenRouter for me says Gemini 3.7 discounted for a limited time, but if I click through that I get to this page: https://openrouter.ai/models?discount=true That shows a bunch of models, including Sol, with a discount. None of them say how long it’s for, but I’d assume in all t…

OpenRouter margins are not 50%.

As I understand OAI is offering discount only for users using the model via OR. Not sure why. Maybe they want OR users to try the model and switch to OAI subscription or something.
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