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Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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yea but also idk if its OT but i pay for apple news premium and its just all ads in safari. like whats the point, like its cheaper to bundle and share with my family. but why am i see ads withing News app when i pay this should be a given.

You're seeing ads while paying because you're paying. If you stop paying you won't see ads while paying anymore. Why would you reward such behavior?

That's one way to look at it, but in theory, you're paying to access news stories that otherwise would not be available. I've never seen a feature of paying for the "plus" to be ad free. That's like suggesting paying for a subscription to a newspaper or magazine would be ad free when paying for it just gave you the access to it. This is how it has always been, so expecting the leopard to change its spots is kind of silly

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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The correct way to avoid ads is to not visit pages that use them.

Is this actually feasible? How do you tell when a page uses ads? How do you find pages without ads when you search for something?

And a better question is how do you find a page without searching since they are exempting search engines from ad blocking.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Which is even more noteworthy because Brave is led by an ex-CEO and influential top exec of Mozilla's. I wonder if he'd have done the same at Mozilla.

He was kicked out of Mozilla for being homophobic. No joke.

Wrong and defamatory. Ouch for your wallet.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Which is even more noteworthy because Brave is led by an ex-CEO and influential top exec of Mozilla's. I wonder if he'd have done the same at Mozilla.

He was kicked out of Mozilla for being homophobic. No joke.

more specifically, it was for donating to homophobic political groups trying to pass Prop 8 which made gay marriage illegal in California [0]

the measure passed by 5% [1] - people were fairly incensed that Mozilla Foundation money (paid to him via his salary) might go to future donations of the same kind

I'm sure people will say things about 'well of course he's legally free to do as he wants with this money' but then so too is the desire by employees to not want to be working under someone who has done something ideologically abhorrent to them. and given the multiple controversies that crop up about Brave seemingly every year where they push some combination of crypto, browser AI, etc, it's probably for the best

[0] https://www.inc.com/jeremy-quittner/mozilla-ceo-brandon-eich...

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2008_California_Proposition_8

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Some iOS developer correct me if I'm wrong

1. Safari supports extensions

2. WebView, the thing most browsers on iOS are required to use in most places, does not directly support those same extensions. In other words, there is no simple options to allow the same extensions.

In other words, Apple makes it harder for alternative browser to support extensions by requiring them to add their own support. That wouldn't be an issue if Apple allowed alternative browser engines but since they don't (in most places) then it's arguably an added hurdle.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Decent browsers should block ads by default just like since 2017 they flag HTTP pages as "Not secure".

To play devil's advocate. Browsers exist to browse sites. Remove the ads and most of those sites disappear, removing the point of having a browser in the first place.. Not every site but plenty of extremely popular sites that people love and enjoy are ad supported.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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Apple is the only thing holding back Chromium / Blink from becoming the only browser technology that matters. I hope they keep fighting that fight.

Nobody would install chrome on iOS even if they could, for the same reason they don't try to install safari on android.

You'd be wrong. One of six iOS users install Chrome. I do as I use 3 OSes and want all my stuff synced across them, something I can't do with Safari.

Re: Firefox for iOS now has a native adblocker

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You're seeing ads while paying because you're paying. If you stop paying you won't see ads while paying anymore. Why would you reward such behavior?

That's one way to look at it, but in theory, you're paying to access news stories that otherwise would not be available. I've never seen a feature of paying for the "plus" to be ad free. That's like suggesting paying for a subscription to a newspaper or magazine would be ad free when paying for it just gave you the access to it. This is how it has always been, so expecting the leopard to change its spots is kind of s…

It's not silly. If you're satisfied with seeing ads in a paid product then that's fine, but the other person clearly is not. Cancelling a service because it doesn't meet your expectations is perfectly reasonable. It doesn't matter how "it's always been".
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