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'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Phones already make people much more reserved and less "wild" eg at parties compared to pre-phone-cameras (that are always online and can upload to social media effortlessly).

I've found being over 40 has made me way less wild at parties.

Skill issue.

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All things you can already do with the phone you already own. Only it isn't mounted on the wall I guess. But is that really such a showstopper that demands this technology? You could also get a dummy screen that displays this info. Reminds me of ipad and to a lesser extent, apple watch. It came out with a ton of hype, tons of people got one, only to never really use it because hey, it only does the exact same stuff a…

For the most part, a phone gets you most of the way there. They're currently the apex predators of the mobile space. I think the one thing that a headset does bring to the table is the hands free nature of it. There are quite a few AR apps and use cases that phones can currently do that fall short because you need to hold your phone out and that's really invasive and fatiguing. In theory you could have things like a…

If they ever gave a shit about voice controls we could have had that 20 years ago with a desktop monitor in the garage. But sadly phones still screw up 50 and 15 with voice controls today. Scrubbing through video would be pretty frustrating on voice control.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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I think I agree with this sentiment most. I am having trouble articulating it. I think wearing smart glasses in some situations is on a scale between rude, offensive, and wrong. I think that's what culture teaches us about what is and what isn't acceptable behavior, right? Like some places teach us it's rude to speak over each-other. Here in New England it is rude not to. I am 100% on board with calling smart glasses…

What situations call for "Pervert glasses?"

I haven't seen anyone stop to ask why any situation period calls for wearing a secret recording device (other than police, military, etc.)? If you want to record something without your hands, there are GoPros or small devices you can wear on your head or clothing. Glasses are just the one socially acceptable accessory, other than hats, in which you can hide the fact that you're recording someone and people are less likely to call you out on it since, ostensibly, people wear glasses because they have a disability. If these glasses weren't built for perverts then they would loudly proclaim or indicate in some way that they're capable of recording people.

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I'm really happy to see this turning out the same way as Glass. It's rare we get serious wins over big tech. It's tough to think of something else that's been so roundly societally rejected, not so much as a bad product, but as something that's loathed so much it has no future.

I wish there was a way to do it without all the problems of having cameras on people's faces. The tech of AR glasses would be pretty neat to get working given I was raised on Sci-fi with visual overlays on people's vision being a pretty common piece of tech. You'd have to trust they couldn't get jailbroken to add recording though even if a company with enough trust made a set with cameras only able to be used by the…

I wish there was a way to do it without all the problems of having cameras on people's faces.

Just make it obvious that they're not ordinary glasses, but recording devices.

Not just a tiny LED that can be covered, but something like the camera is on an arm that swings out in front of the wearer so there's no mistaking that a recording is in progress.

The fact that they're designed for stealth shows the nefarious intent.

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I wish there was a way to do it without all the problems of having cameras on people's faces. The tech of AR glasses would be pretty neat to get working given I was raised on Sci-fi with visual overlays on people's vision being a pretty common piece of tech. You'd have to trust they couldn't get jailbroken to add recording though even if a company with enough trust made a set with cameras only able to be used by the…

I wish there was a way to do it without all the problems of having cameras on people's faces. Just make it obvious that they're not ordinary glasses, but recording devices. Not just a tiny LED that can be covered, but something like the camera is on an arm that swings out in front of the wearer so there's no mistaking that a recording is in progress. The fact that they're designed for stealth shows the nefarious inte…

For AR glasses the current best option for tracking is inside out tracking so the camera would basically always be deployed.

I don't think we have to go so far as assigning nefarious intent here, there are a lot of reasons they're designed as they are. For example your proposed solution is bulky, expensive and prone to damage, so there's plenty of non-nefarious reasons they don't have it operate that way.

Re: 'Pervert glasses': Backlash against Meta's smart glasses grows

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Tech is so frustrating in real life. I feel like we have all the cool sci fi stuff I always wanted, but everything comes with a monkey's paw style gotcha. The idea of meta glasses is so awesome, I want a heads up display to show me whatever I want. But there is no way in hell I would use them because the company that makes it can’t be trusted.

Why do you want this? I honestly think we’ve completely forgotten how to be present and notice the real world without the idea of augmenting it.

I walk with crutches. When navigating an unknown city this would be bliss. Instead of having to stop, put my crutches to the side, pull out phone or check my watch to check directions, I'd just always have them there. Same for notifications too. I guess it would be the same for any other person. Sometimes you just don't have your hands free. There is no way in hell I'd buy them from Meta though.

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> There's a museum with a very distinct building that is infamous for sending security staff out to tell photographers they cannot image the building Which one is that?

perot museum dallas

They're probably doing it 1/to people who are on their property (the Museum can permit certain activities on its property while prohibiting others), and 2/for security purposes, e.g., to help slow the identification of building or security vulnerabilities, or to prevent harassing the staff.

If they said it's because the design of the building is copyrighted, they're just wrong. Nor can they prohibit the taking of photographs from off the property.

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> Many buildings are copyrighted Well, let me stop you right there. That's the bit that needs fixing.

Nope, can't stop right there. It is the situation we live in now. You can release a product like a poster or puzzle or whatever and try to YOLO with your protest, but you will lose in court when you are sued by the rights holder. There's a museum with a very distinct building that is infamous for sending security staff out to tell photographers they cannot image the building. They have no idea what someone will do wi…

Yes folks, architecture is copyrightable under US Law! And other laws too!!

It seems plausible that the Perot Museum is copyrighted, and being post-1990 this should be a sure protection, but however, it should also be always permissible to photograph the exterior from public places and there should be nothing the staff can legally do to discourage this activity.

https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:Freedom_of_panora...

Interior photography by patrons would be another matter, and discretion and policy would be in play there as well.

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Germany makes a distinction between expectations of privacy and being in a public space. If you’re in a cafe and talking to someone at your table, you generally do not expect others to participate and listen to your conversation, that can be enough to be considered private and would likely be illegal to record without consent. The act of recording audio is in itself restricted, though if you share you can have additi…

I think the "American" version is the one that's outdated, if anything. The German one is a bit too restrictive, sure, but I'd rather lean a little towards too much privacy than too little.

I don’t know. I would move the restriction on the distribution more than the recording itself. Though I’m happy I didn’t move to the US when I had the opportunity, the German privacy laws are closer to my personal values than the US, I find the whole concept of having no privacy as soon as you’re in a public place pretty terrible
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