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Re: Count Binface

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Post by Nursie »

frakrx wrote: post #127
athrowaway3z wrote: post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I think you wildly misunderstand the situation. If what you think is true, why did Farage step down call the election in the first place? It seems rather clear it was a PR stunt he knows he'll win in this district, which lets him distract from his own corruption scandals. But if you think there is some other reason I'd be interesting to hear the theory.

A joke candidate with a bincan head has about 15-20% odds of winning this election. A serious candidate from a real party could have a real chance of defeating Farage but seems noone was brave enough. Better play it safe, take no risks and run away from fights. Thats the way forward for UK.

No, better to make him look like a corrupt loser running up against a guy in a bin costume. And it works!

Re: Count Binface

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Post by M2Ys4U »

wizzwizz4 wrote: post #129
lambdaone wrote: post #116

Earlier quoted context omitted.

His birth name, and I believe still his legal name, is Alexander Boris de Pfeffel Johnson. But he is "commonly known as" Boris Johnson, so that's what can go on the ballot paper, although his full name must still go on the registration documents. Count Binface is in the same situation.

Since he gave up his US citizenship in 2016, I don't think he's subject to a jurisdiction where "legal name" is a meaningful notion. Ultimately, this means his first name is whatever he says it is (provided that he isn't lying): you'd have to ask him. Supposing that his answer changes depending on the social context, then both "Alexander" and "Boris" would be valid answers for "what is this person's first name?". Cou…

>Ultimately, whether he would be allowed to write "Count Binface" as his name on the registration documents would depend on what the Electoral Commission decides. I had a look last week, but couldn't find their rules.

One can stand for election using any name that one is "commonly known by".

Re: Count Binface

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Post by DrScientist »

prohobo wrote: post #201
dofm wrote: post #185

Earlier quoted context omitted.

He is noticeably more damaged now, believe me. Everyone thinks this election was at least a stupid idea and it is his stupid idea designed for his personal benefit. You are right that it could backfire, but to give you a much longer and more analytical answer, here is the picture as Farage understands it and why he did what he did: - Farage is the leader of an insurgent party with the ability to command national medi…

This is all from the perspective of people who already oppose Farage, though. Supporters will zealously reframe everything as illegitimate attack. Soft skeptics will notice the establishment's overreach. I agree this might be a normal political tactic on paper, but that's irrelevant when you're dealing with populism. The entire game is tribal framing. To anyone outside the anti-Farage coalition, this just looks like…

I think you are right that the issue is tribal framing.

The question is whether satire will puncture that.

Farage's supporters will be trying as hard as possible to paint Binface as a lefty establishment figure- but satire gives you an oportunity to reframe the debate.

Take the 5 million quid - the defence is it's a gift and who wouldn't take it if offered?

Binface can lean into that - rather than say it's terrible etc - he can say - yes I'd like a bit of that - and ask Farage how he can also get such a donation?

Such a question is in effect asking 'what do I need to do to get a 5 million donation' - which is the same as asking what Nigel did for it.

But it's more difficult to answer with 'none of your business' or I did nothing - implying Binface is equally likely to get it.

But perhaps I'm being over-optimistic.

Re: Count Binface

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Post by M2Ys4U »

llimos wrote: post #18

There's a long tradition in the UK of comedy candidates, notably the Monster Raving Loony Party. There's even some talk of a potential Loony-Bin alliance.

>There's even some talk of a potential Loony-Bin alliance.

Nah, never going to happen. There's history between Binface and the Loonies... and they're a lot more right-wing than people often think they are

Re: Count Binface

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Post by gadders »

Nursie wrote: post #222
gadders wrote: post #209

Earlier quoted context omitted.

And paying people to not generate electricity But essentially there no countries with high renewables and low energy cost: https://nypost.com/2025/05/07/opinion/cheap-solar-and-wind-i...

An opinion piece in an American right-wing tabloid? That's surely the end of the argument then!

"By Bjorn Lomborg"

Re: Count Binface

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Post by lproven »

gwerbin wrote: post #11
WalterGR wrote: post #3

(In the US, his name would translate as Count Trash Can-Face or Count Garbage Can-Face.)

Or in Massachusetts, Count Barrelface.

No. The point of the comment was to clarify the confusion that you are reinforcing.

A "bin" in BrEn does not mean a generic container: it generally means a receptacle for waste, refuse, or garbage.

Re: Count Binface

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Post by tim333 »

dofm wrote: post #53
JumpCrisscross wrote: post #9

"Harvey previously stood as a similar character, Lord Buckethead, but was forced to create a new character due to a dispute with the filmmaker Todd Durham, who owns the Buckethead character" [1]. (The videos on this website are worth the watch. Hilarious, of course. But also...Binface conjugates Latin to Sky News , and not just as a bit. I don't know how I feel about the British comedy candidate outclassing half of t…

> I don't know how I feel about the British comedy candidate outclassing half of the American elected leadership–and a good fraction of its industrial leadership–on IQ.) Your entire political system has flirted with anti-intellectualism for over a century; it used to pretend to be uneducated simpletons to appeal to the electorate (witness, e.g. the folksy “ahhm just a simple mayynn” gurning schtick of Senator John Ke…

>declining tradition

Rishi Sunak, Liz Truss, Boris Johnson, Theresa May, and David Cameron went to Oxford and Starmer did a postgrad there.

So the current PM and previous five.

Maybe Binface can make PM after all?

Re: Count Binface

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Post by lproven »

blast wrote: post #14

Prior art: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface

Nope. Several decades later.

The "Boaty McBoatface" campaign was from 2016. "Lord Buckethead" first appeared in 1987, some 30 years earlier.

Re: Count Binface

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Post by lproven »

rjsw wrote: post #24
blast wrote: post #14

Prior art: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boaty_McBoatface

Better prior art [1], in an actual election. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stuart_Drummond

Still no: "Lord Buckethead" first stood in 1987, some 15 years before the "H'Angus the monkey" campaign in 2002.

Re: Count Binface

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Post by crote »

TomK32 wrote: post #111
ayaros wrote: post #87

I have so many questions... I wonder how the legalities of this work. If people write in "Count Binface" or if that's the name on the ballot, then if he wins, does that mean Jonathan David Harvey (the actual name of the guy who plays him) is elected? Does Count Binface count as an alias? If not, he required to use that name while in office - or more precisely, is he not considered a member if he goes by his own name?…

> If he goes into the parliament building without his costume If the people vote for a man in a bin costume then he should have the right to represent them in that very same costume. On the other hand, to satisfy both his desire for a costumes as well as parliament's rules that basically allow its members to look at each other eye to eye, he might switch to a transparent bin. Something that would benefit the whole co…

He's called Count Binface for a reason: he isn't wearing a hat, that's just his face!
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