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Not going to lie, it would be an absolute hell to develop an app that's actually used without getting crash/analytics.
Surely this could (or should) be facilitated through the app store.
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You are right, it is BS. Non-multiplayer games, clock, camera, contacts, phone, text message, file explorer, keyboard, launcher, notes, document viewer/editor, image viewer, audio recorder... Most of the apps on my phone do not need internet access.
Every single one of those, except for the games, is a pre-installed built in app. It seems like you just don't use apps.
> you just don't use apps.
An app isn't an "app" if I don't install it?
I have banking "apps" and others which obviously do require internet access to function properly, but the hundreds of flashlight apps in the app store should not need the internet.
The app I use to back up my text messages and contacts does not need internet, but the other app that I use to copy those backup files and pictures off my phone to other computers does.
The sad thing is, even if I take steps to prevent others getting access to my contacts or text messages, sketchy companies will still get those same contacts and quite possibly most of those messages from everyone else.
We need "herd immunity" when it comes to digital privacy, but it's unlikely to ever happen.
I don't understand why internet access isn't opt-in for apps. Preventing exfiltration would prevent much of this harm, and most apps don't have any need to access the internet in the first place. Why am I creating a GE account to read my blood pressure? At least I know it's taking advantage of me. But this is clearly abusive behavior
> most apps don't have any need to access the internet in the first place Citation needed. Looking through my phone the vast majority of third party apps I have installed obviously require internet access: - Social media - Travel (rideshare/airlines/hotels) - Streaming - Finance (credit cards/banks) - Shopping Not counting built-in apps like the calculator I'd estimate 80-90% of the apps I have installed require inte…
I don't understand why internet access isn't opt-in for apps. Preventing exfiltration would prevent much of this harm, and most apps don't have any need to access the internet in the first place. Why am I creating a GE account to read my blood pressure? At least I know it's taking advantage of me. But this is clearly abusive behavior
> most apps don't have any need to access the internet in the first place Citation needed. Looking through my phone the vast majority of third party apps I have installed obviously require internet access: - Social media - Travel (rideshare/airlines/hotels) - Streaming - Finance (credit cards/banks) - Shopping Not counting built-in apps like the calculator I'd estimate 80-90% of the apps I have installed require inte…
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Yes indeed, the limit is 50 which is of course enough to fully profile "regular people" who only have a handful of apps. Also don't forget, Meta/Google/TikTok/WhateverPalantir are updated weekly which means they can tweak their LSApplicationQueriesSchemes list and cover even more apps if they want to.
Are there legitimate reasons why an App should know I have installed?
These days we have more modern and privacy protecting APIs for making content available to the system or other apps… but that doesn’t stop the profilers.
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E.g if gmail knows that you have maps or chrome it can deep link you into a particular view instead of opening safari.
At the OS level, Android gives me the option to open links in the corresponding app.
Since Android 11, Google copied the iOS model except Android is a bit more permissive and so you get a bit less privacy out of the box.
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100% of users have legitimate reasons to block internet access for some apps. If internet access wasn't granted by default, a lot more apps would function without it. Many other apps wouldn't exist at all, because their only reason to exist is to spy on users.
Not going to lie, it would be an absolute hell to develop an app that's actually used without getting crash/analytics.
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There is very little IPC that is allowed for apps that do not share a development team on iOS.
> There is very little IPC I am not familiar with iOS internals, but does "very little IPC" mean "zero IPC"? Because if we are talking IPC in the context of bypassing permission checks, I imagine, 'very little' doesn't cut it?