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Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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post #103

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Can Immich on Android automatically upload taken photos like Google Photos?

Yes, it work well. It works less well on ios, some pain points due to how Apple handles background apps.

It works okayish on ios. Could be better, but it works. Sometimes I just have to open the app on my iphone to start the sync process, but most of the times it just works. Anyway, i'm so glad i migrated, should have done it earlier.

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Chargebacks are a pain and as a seller you almost always lose them, Stripe advices to refund based on signal's they get that a disput is requested. As a company there is just no point in fighting them. I even had emails of clients they made a mistake and didnt realise it was our payment, but even that wasn;t enough.

Just FYI, my wife has to fight a lot of outright fraudulent Stripe disputes filed against the company she works for (things like a customer claiming they never received when she has an extensive paper trail of them receiving, using, and thanking the business for said goods) and she's mentioned how Stripe's signals aren't especially accurate--in the past month she's won several major disputes that Stripe predicted she…

I just refund autmoatically when there is a early fraud warning, not worth the fight. We had lot of issues from Brazil, who all just falsely claimed their creditcard was stolen.

If we get our dispute rate down, might consider trying fighting it again, they are always our lowest tiers of 19 or 29 usd. So not really worth it. Just frustrating it's such a terrible process on our end. Also twice users are open to withdraw it when I contacted them, yet their bank / card doesnt make that easy or possible, so they still count to our dispute rate.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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What's the best alternative? Flickr? I don't want to self-host my photos, too much management. I don't want to use Apple or Google or MS Clouds for various reasons. I do want to support a pure-play, independent-ish, profitable, consumer friendly platform. To upload hires shots and have them easy to tag/share/access among those to whom they may be of interest. I expect to pay, but not through the nose. Reliability mat…

so you want a service that does everything, is around forever, extremely reliable, affordable, and easy to use, and not affiliated with big tech? and you don't want to do anything yourself?

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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It isn't just out of the kindness of their hearts that they don't do this. There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. I have to go through a legal and privacy process at my big corp job whenever I want to record a new timestamp and I need to ensure that the data is used appropriately and that it is wiped later. I've only seen these compliance requirements become more onerous over the pas…

> There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. One of the big companies, Meta, already decided to go ahead and grab terabytes of pirated books to feed their LLM. [0] Therefore I would not give them (or similar entities) the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they might use text that customers "gave" them under some unreadably-favorable terms of service. With PII, the pirated-books e…

Is the reputational risk of pirating terabytes of books worse than the reputational risk of shredding (destructively scanning) millions of books?

https://arstechnica.com/ai/2025/06/anthropic-destroyed-milli...

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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Zuck: I have over 4,000 emails, pictures, addresses, SNS [Redacted Friend's Name]: What? How'd you manage that one? Zuck: People just submitted it. Zuck: I don't know why. Zuck: They "trust me" Zuck: Dumb fucks 2004 is when that was typed. I'm not sure that that social contract ever existed. We just didn't understand how "free" services worked.

This really seems like the exception that proves the rule, given how few Facebooks came out of that era. We had a social contract, but it turned out that being sociopathic is a winning strategy when everyone else is playing by the implicit rules. See also: modern politics.

The dominant business model that decade was monetization via getting people to fork over their data.

That's basically what Web 2.0 was.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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I don't have a problem with that. I wouldn't upload anything to these I didn't keep a local copy of. Monetarily it makes sense: they have to recover the cost of storing these images. By charging to recover every old image, they can cover the costs of holding on to these for people. The fallacy is that there's a third option between paid recovery and not storing them indefinitely: doing it for free.

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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If Google Photos gave me my photos in one go, exactly as they are in the app, I'd gladly pay $5. As it stands, they offer "Takeout" for free. This process gives you hundreds of zip files with the photos distributed into deep subfolders by date. That would be forgivable if it weren't for the fact that they revert all their processing and deduping, leaving you with 20 copies of the same file scattered in random places.…

Have you tried https://github.com/simulot/immich-go for dealing with the some of the complexity of google takeout? Not sure how much it actually handles, and whether it can be used easily if you're not migrating to immich, but it's what came to mind here. (I'm a new user of immich but never used google photos)

Re: Want your images back? That'll be $5

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post #193

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> There are laws and regulations. There is also legal risk and reputation. One of the big companies, Meta, already decided to go ahead and grab terabytes of pirated books to feed their LLM. [0] Therefore I would not give them (or similar entities) the benefit of the doubt when it comes to how they might use text that customers "gave" them under some unreadably-favorable terms of service. With PII, the pirated-books e…

Fair enough. I don't use Facebook at all because I don't respect or trust the company or it's mission. I do use Gemini and Claude though.

Google is an ad company, I'd be very.... cautious with the trust here.

https://apnews.com/article/google-smartphone-surveillance-ve...

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