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Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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put simpler, you learned what not to build.

Shouldn't companies figure this out before wasting tens of millions in budget + working hours? All I'm reading is that corporations are not taxed enough if they are okay with such opulent waste.

Nobody can perfectly predict the future.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#232

Weird baseless push for AI on the end, with no reasoning, no goal, no claim of gain. "Just go and use AI, people, developers must adopt new things." It's not the first article I've read recently that is an ad for AI after a short context pretending to criticize it, with nothing connecting them.

Oh come on, the value of AI > 0. That’s not a controversial take.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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youll be outcompeted by companies that do use it (caveat: effectively) growth is much more important than profitability

Will you though? I see this repeated, but I’ve almost never changed products because one has 10x more features than another. I usually buy and use products that are simple and effective, and that get out of my way to do the thing that I want to do. For email, I’m a happy customer of Fastmail and I’ve been paying them for years. I don’t care if they ever release a new feature and I’d never switch away from them to a c…

Well this is a different argument, that we really don’t need very much new software because so much of what was needed is already written.

I’m sympathetic to this argument. But it’s orthogonal to the AI question.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

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> right now its a race to automate work, especially back office. companies already are seeing 10M+ in savings and revenue growth What? Where? Citations please. We're seeing big companies massively stall in all traditional sectors except AI which is a irrational market built off hype.

ai companies know how to use the tools internally, not surprising there are no citations yet because this is going on behind closed doors, if you know you know. we'll start seeing it in the financials of companies soon. alternatively you can look at the revenue growth of applied ai companies

“Trust me, bro”

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#235
post #85

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AI is the new cloud. There's no market for people or companies who aren't committed to it. If you're a dev who refuses to use AI, no company will hire you; and should a company decide not to use AI they will have a hard time retaining devs (and they will need more devs). Their investors and big-ticket customers will also think twice before signing off on major commitments. So yes, use AI. Don't nitpick the costs and…

> So yes, use AI. Don't nitpick the costs and benefits. The world is headed this way; if you want to develop software for a living and afford to eat, you need to be too. It's really saddening to see software engineers throw out all critical thinking and innovation out the window to behave like sheep and follow the trend line. The industry was trailblazed by people that refused to do just that and the same is going to…

Are you saying productivity is strictly greater for developers who don’t use AI?

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#236

>The difference this time is pace: you could delay adopting “the cloud” for a couple of years and survive. With AI you might get a few months. It is weird that the author seems to understand that the pro-AI claims made by AI companies about the product’s necessity are not falsifiable, but then backtracks with “woah woah woah but don’t think I’m anti-AI.” How is the assertion above any more rigorous than the productiv…

He is talking about the cultural considerations of being hire-able. Not about productivity.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#237

I kinda feel as if this was the money quote: > If you got a free headcount increase essentially overnight, why wouldn’t you use it to deliver more value to your customers, faster? That shows that, in reality, it's short-sighted profit-taking. Boss just wants another lambo in the garage, and doesn't really plan to be around, when it's time to pay the piper.

Also means they don’t have any ideas for how to grow revenue.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#238

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ai companies know how to use the tools internally, not surprising there are no citations yet because this is going on behind closed doors, if you know you know. we'll start seeing it in the financials of companies soon. alternatively you can look at the revenue growth of applied ai companies

“Trust me, bro”

applied ai company revenues are semi public

some are even profitable!

everything else is free alpha, do with that what you want

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#239
post #86

Another AI slop article urging me to use AI on the orange AI fanboy site which has guidelines against AI slop comments, but AI slop submissions, that's just fine I reckon... Screenshot since the share button demands I have some social media login. https://imgur.com/a/UW15xVE

Genuinely funny how often I see both "HN is an AI hate site" and "HN is an AI fanboy site". As dang said in one of these threads recently, opinions are just spilt on this!

I show dead and never see a dead fanboy. Just the critics.

Re: Lines of code got a better publicist

#240

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I think engineers tend to over index on this kind of thing being "waste". You didn't waste that investment, you paid for the option to ship that feature or MVP and the research into the question of whether it made sense to ship it.

That's cool but don't get heart broken when engineers leave after repeatedly being told the thing they worked on for months wont ship because someone at the top said so.

Not really? If those are people I'm close with, I try to express this perspective to them in 1:1s that things that don't end up shipping are not a waste for the reasons I expressed here. And most of those people (because they are simpatico with me, which is why we're close) tend to see it the same way I do, and not leave because of this. And if they do leave for this reason, I conclude, well, they just weren't really aligned with me on this particular perspective. And that's a bummer, but not everyone is gonna see things the way I do.
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