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Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Hey, come on... I have ADHD and love reading. No need to use that as a bludgeon. It's unnecessary...

Doesn't your ADHD interfere with sitting down and reading?

One part of ADHD is hyperfocus. ADHD is a dopamine deficiency issue, so when something highly stimulating (like a good book, or writing code) causes a release of dopamine the brain locks onto it and won't let go.

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> I hope this comment wasn't too off-topic from the main point of "pleasure" It looks to me far away over there in the "what's my profit in reading" direction I'm afraid.

Fair enough :-) Do you have a theory for why we view reading, even in terms of pleasure, as favorable? I imagine it's because we see some utility in it over other activities.

> we see some utility

So what utility do you see in Netflix? Or doomscrolling? Or whatever you do for pleasure?

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Idk, since letting my son stay up as late as he wants reading trips to the library have been weekly, even as he transitions to actual no image chapter books. As others have said we try to time box tech best we can. I may have to physically lift him from the bed some days but it is worth it to find him passed out with a book in his hand at 10pm.

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Devil’s advocate: what’s the point? Is it important to have reading and writing skills if everything can be transcribed through AI? Or maybe it’s not directly important, but the ability to hold your attention on something for 30-60 minutes is? Is reading the best medium for education, or something more like Kahn Academy videos? I also wonder how the Montessori schools are doing, since I believe they focus less on rot…

I think a world where people are just automatons who ask AIs to do things for them is a pretty bleak world. Reading, writing, being able to focus on things... these are healthy things that healthy brains do. And I don't think that's just a case of it always being that way in the past, so any change to that is bad. I think humans as a species will die if we give this sort of thing up, and I don't think I'm exaggeratin…

What kind of world are we building where advanced technology is just used to stop living as full human beings? Where’s the desire to self-actualize? Did it start dying when people got glued to the idiot box?

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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post #148

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I think a world where people are just automatons who ask AIs to do things for them is a pretty bleak world. Reading, writing, being able to focus on things... these are healthy things that healthy brains do. And I don't think that's just a case of it always being that way in the past, so any change to that is bad. I think humans as a species will die if we give this sort of thing up, and I don't think I'm exaggeratin…

What kind of world are we building where advanced technology is just used to stop living as full human beings? Where’s the desire to self-actualize? Did it start dying when people got glued to the idiot box?

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Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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I read for pleasure; ~100 books a year on average. When I go anywhere, I am reading. My daughter informed me that the mothers of her teammates were outright making fun of me for having my 'nose buried in a book,' before every event. I asked her if they were making fun of everyone else for having their nose buried in their phones; she laughed and said they probably were not. Why is reading for fun something that's wor…

Having all the time the nose in a book is a disfunctional behavior just like being on the phone all the time is disfunctional. Of course other people are applying the conformity rule and they're pretending that their phone addiction is normal but both behavior are disfunctional. However there are still people that are able to function normally and they do whatever they are doing being present to their activity and to…

Child raised with this mentality will throw you in a retirement home and disown you. I don’t blame them one bit.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Recommendations? What are you reading? I recently enjoyed a few books of the "We are Legion, We are Bob" series

Presently surprised by the lack of /lit/ meme recommendations like “infinite jest” or “gravities rainbow”.

I’ll throw a fun one in. Anything by De Sade.

I’m always fascinated by the idea that we should push kids to read as much as possible as fast as possible. Reading is a deeply subversive activity. Give the kid a copy of something like “the pedogogy of the oppressed” and soon enough you (the teacher) may find your back being put against the wall by the very same kids.

I think people would rather kids don’t read and stay tik tok addicts rather than the school system try to teach 14 year olds about literature through the book Lolita (and yes this does happen in public high schools all across the USA).

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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I read for pleasure; ~100 books a year on average. When I go anywhere, I am reading. My daughter informed me that the mothers of her teammates were outright making fun of me for having my 'nose buried in a book,' before every event. I asked her if they were making fun of everyone else for having their nose buried in their phones; she laughed and said they probably were not. Why is reading for fun something that's wor…

Similarly, people are socially allowed to be buried in their phones while at work and this doesn't get critized by managers much, but god help you if you had a magazine or book open when taking a short break.

If you don't pay attention to the NFL, you might have missed Philadelphia Eagles player AJ Brown reading a book on the sidelines:

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/koyNVSD2vyU

There were many performative hot takes at the time. The best part though, for me, was coach Nick Sirianni defending him when asked about it after the game. Sirianni said:

> Some guys pray in between, some guys mediate in between. A.J. reads in between. Whatever these guys need to do to put their mind in a place where they can play with great detail and great effort, I fully encourage them to do that

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Recommendations? What are you reading? I recently enjoyed a few books of the "We are Legion, We are Bob" series

Kings of the Wyld is a lot of fun. Plus it’s always refreshing to have a middle-aged protagonist instead of a teen or young adult.

Re: Reading for pleasure is sharply down among schoolkids, report shows

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Recommendations? What are you reading? I recently enjoyed a few books of the "We are Legion, We are Bob" series

This is something i actually found chatgpt useful for. I gave it a list of books ive read and why i liked them, it gave me a list, some minimal summaries. I went and did some searches, read the back, told chatgpt my thoughts and it refined the list once more. It was able to turn me to an author of a number of scifi books that really piqued my interest. One of them it prefaced with "dont read tue summaries" which i th…

In high school I was at a friend’s house. Half of the bookshelf was filled with books I loved and the other half with books I’d never heard of! I felt like a prospector striking gold :) Cool to think that we have something similar on demand now!
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