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The computer science degree isn’t dead

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Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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Isn't it normal to study mathematics in a computer science bachelor program in USA? That country never ceases to astonish me lol.

I like how you don't know the answer but then just assume anyway lol Guess the standards in your country for logic must be really low lol

USA never ceases to astonish me regardless of the presence of compulsory mathematics courses in computer science programs. I guess you didn't take logic :)

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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There is a weird assumption nowadays that “making money = you’re an expert and know what you’re doing.” The best X is the one that makes the most cash, full stop. Very scary for the future, unfortunately.

hmm i dont think any new grad is an expert and knows what they're doing (if im understanding you right) but the skills we used to look for in new grads are shifting as coding agents make execution easy, a new grad with good business sense is really valuable

All I ask is they are willing to learn to use git decently.

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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If one is thinking about not getting a degree and trying to go straight to work, as someone who did so (albiet out of poverty rather than choice) but didn't end up like Zuck, please heed my warning: Social capital matters more than just about anyone who has a degree can understand and tell you or mentor you about, because the majority of them have always had it, and they tend not even to interact with people without…

This tracks for me because I am a developer with a 4 year degree in a field completely unrelated to CS and I have never felt any of the stigma or othering from my coworkers on the measures you described.

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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There's a formula I've bookmarked from someone to help you get better social capital. In order to increase your surface for social capital you need to expand your influence, therefore you need to increase your luck: L (luck) = D (doing) x T (telling) Basically, you need to be able to show you are able to do stuff (D) and with enough people seeing this by you sharing (T) through different channels, can open doors. I h…

Best way to have social capital is an introduction into a space where money and power exist. Many spaces no matter what you do you will never be able to get in without an intro, and they have extremely few opportunities. Being college buddies with a member of an upper class is one of the only times they will ever socially mix. It is indeed like royalty in every way. Being at Harvard gets you a lot relative to the pop…

But what do you do if you can't stand the faintest smell of nepotism?

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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Best way to have social capital is an introduction into a space where money and power exist. Many spaces no matter what you do you will never be able to get in without an intro, and they have extremely few opportunities. Being college buddies with a member of an upper class is one of the only times they will ever socially mix. It is indeed like royalty in every way. Being at Harvard gets you a lot relative to the pop…

But what do you do if you can't stand the faintest smell of nepotism?

Struggle harder than you otherwise would, sadly.

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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This is nonsense. It’s referrals for jobs that get filled before the JD is even posted, or discussions about what companies/people _actually_ want when they’re tendering projects. It’s tickets for sold out events, access to golf tee times or bookings that just aren’t available if you have to ask. Two examples from my life - a friend is a headhunter for tech companies. My last job was been him hitting me up before the…

Fair enough, I’m not sure what the need is to be so vague about it then.

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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I love how the basic expectation of having a job and the life altering circumstance of not having one factors into this not even a little bit

Not sure what you mean, juniors are a poor ROI these days.

They mean that juniors have bills to pay, too.

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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Best way to have social capital is an introduction into a space where money and power exist. Many spaces no matter what you do you will never be able to get in without an intro, and they have extremely few opportunities. Being college buddies with a member of an upper class is one of the only times they will ever socially mix. It is indeed like royalty in every way. Being at Harvard gets you a lot relative to the pop…

But what do you do if you can't stand the faintest smell of nepotism?

Then you're fucked :)

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

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Best way to have social capital is an introduction into a space where money and power exist. Many spaces no matter what you do you will never be able to get in without an intro, and they have extremely few opportunities. Being college buddies with a member of an upper class is one of the only times they will ever socially mix. It is indeed like royalty in every way. Being at Harvard gets you a lot relative to the pop…

But what do you do if you can't stand the faintest smell of nepotism?

The sibling commenters are correct but I will add with the benefit of being an old guy that this ebbs and flows. GP said "I have never seen tech be less about engineering", and I agree.

But it can't get much less about engineering before rich people become poor in large numbers, and that will start the pendulum back the other way.

Rich people losing money that matters in large numbers is like a soft civil war, everything changes.

Re: The computer science degree isn’t dead

#240

This is reminiscent of my field, physics. As I was finishing my degree in the early 90s, I joined the American Physical Society, and received their magazine, Physics Today . Every month there was an article along the same lines: The physics degree isn't dead.

Why would anyona think Physics degree would be “dead”?
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