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Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by picofarad »

voidUpdate wrote: post #207
cma5 wrote: post #109

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Used DS + R4 / M3 Card also does the job and you can use it as a walkman too

I've gotten a lot of mileage out of a softmodded DSi that reads game ROMs off an SD card. I haven't loaded it up with every single game ever, just some that I like, and it's been great to play on when I'm in bed. I've almost 100%'d picross 3D (unless it has secret extra content for after you finish)

I have a soft modded 3DS that I just copied the games that I owned onto an SD card so that I didn't have to worry about my kids losing them anymore. Wonderful that people put in the effort so I can play all my games still.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by knollimar »

perilunar wrote: post #205

There's an old saying in biology: "ontogeny recapitulates phylogeny" [1], which is how the developing embryo of an animal (the ontogeny), goes through stages resembling the evolution of the animal (phylogeny). I sometimes think that would also be a great way to educate kids when it comes to technology. Start them with simple old tech (sticks, stones, string, camp fires) and gradually add new tech over time, so that b…

They should know tech well by soph/junior year of high school or you do a disservice to them

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by picofarad »

nkg wrote: post #35

I went the same route. I have bought stuff from the 2000s for my 10yo girl: pink plastic digital camera, mp3 player, a desktop PC in the middle of the living room. Btw, do you know any website where we can legally download mp3 ?

You can use SoundCloud, SoundClick, a lot of artists have set up MP3 downloads for their music there, Bandcamp, as another user mentioned, and also archive.org.

There's also yt-dlp, but I'm less keen on that because it doesn't do the ID3 tagging.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by ralfd »

estetlinus wrote: post #194

I remember my dad trying to make me fall in love with The Beatles. He loved The Beatles. I sat there quietly on the sofa while he got to relive his adolescence. The experience felt less like discovering something together and more like being a prop in someone else’s nostalgia. I can’t help getting the same feeling from this blog post. “Look at this amazing CD player!” Cool, Dad. I’m genuinely happy for you. Meanwhile…

Yes, the Onion satirized it long ago:

https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that...

> Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation

> Local man Paul Campbell confirmed Saturday he was raising his daughter Emma on a variety of media carefully selected to help her cultivate an appreciation for artistic quality, a move that will reportedly put the 12-year-old girl hopelessly out of touch with her generation.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by pixl97 »

efskap wrote: post #189
j45 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be important to tell kids early that comparisons don't matter, that everyone's diffferent, and that's ok, and every family's different and that's ok.

Depends on personality I guess. That would be sooo unsatisfying to me. E.g. not wanting to accept that languages have exceptions "just because" is what got me interested in historical linguistics as a young lad.

Yep, we can see a lot of people here have had little experience in raising children. Some will just seem to naturally say "I accept that", and another kid that will be like "f you, I don't do what you tell me" born a year apart and raised in the same household. Nurture can moderate these behaviors, but nature is strong.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by estetlinus »

ralfd wrote: post #234
estetlinus wrote: post #194

I remember my dad trying to make me fall in love with The Beatles. He loved The Beatles. I sat there quietly on the sofa while he got to relive his adolescence. The experience felt less like discovering something together and more like being a prop in someone else’s nostalgia. I can’t help getting the same feeling from this blog post. “Look at this amazing CD player!” Cool, Dad. I’m genuinely happy for you. Meanwhile…

Yes, the Onion satirized it long ago: https://theonion.com/cool-dad-raising-daughter-on-media-that... > Cool Dad Raising Daughter On Media That Will Put Her Entirely Out Of Touch With Her Generation > Local man Paul Campbell confirmed Saturday he was raising his daughter Emma on a variety of media carefully selected to help her cultivate an appreciation for artistic quality, a move that will reportedly put the 12-yea…

Lol.

> “I definitely feel out of place sometimes,” said Emma, who told reporters she will never forget the blank stares she once received upon mentioning Petula Clark. “It’d be nice to know what everyone’s talking about for a change.”

I can picture the dad lurking in the shadows.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by TimTheTinker »

estetlinus wrote: post #194

I remember my dad trying to make me fall in love with The Beatles. He loved The Beatles. I sat there quietly on the sofa while he got to relive his adolescence. The experience felt less like discovering something together and more like being a prop in someone else’s nostalgia. I can’t help getting the same feeling from this blog post. “Look at this amazing CD player!” Cool, Dad. I’m genuinely happy for you. Meanwhile…

> I dread the moment my daughters find out about TikTok...

Tell her yourself. Explain why you hate it. And have something better to offer.

If your family culture is different (and stronger) than the culture around you, you have a decent chance at being able to intentionally shape her character.

That's where books and stories come in -- culture is transmitted primarily through engaging stories. My wife and I inherited reading as a top family practice from our parents, and we're passing it along. Every day we read to the kids ... it's been about 14 years now of that. My daughter in particular was deeply shaped by the book Little Women by Louisa May Alcott - it gave her a aspirative vision for life, particularly as a future wife and mother -- and her vision transcends her family of origin, in a very good way.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by j45 »

efskap wrote: post #189
j45 wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It can be important to tell kids early that comparisons don't matter, that everyone's diffferent, and that's ok, and every family's different and that's ok.

Depends on personality I guess. That would be sooo unsatisfying to me. E.g. not wanting to accept that languages have exceptions "just because" is what got me interested in historical linguistics as a young lad.

I was more referring to the children that compare themselves to other children, or differences between what they have/are allowed to do and what others can.

It's why I prefaced it with "It can".

Every child is different, but a big impact is every parent who has or hasn't dealt with the normal childhood stuff every parent can have, plus the extra, or latent reactivity can be modelled and passed on.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by lucaspiller »

Swizec wrote: post #47
smokel wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Most kids that grew up during the timeline you described had no interest in computer architecture. The small minority that did care is probably the same size now. The other 99% who were into yoyo-ing back then are now into TikTok, that's all.

> The other 99% who were into yoyo-ing back then are now into TikTok, that's all. Hey dude, some of us were yo-yoing while waiting for Gentoo to build from stage 0. Compiling an OS on a single-core Athlon takes time. For the 3 days it takes to build all the way up to KDE, you have no computer. Hope you didn’t forget something

Don't forget the fan controllers to try to make it silent and the neon lights. I still have that machine at my parents house, used it a couple of years ago to rip all my teenage CDs to digital formats.

Re: Retro-Tech Parenting

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Post by postscape »

password4321 wrote: post #167
postscape wrote: post #62

With 3 kids - CD's and DVDs are a hell no for me. Dealing with skips and getting through DVD menus to get to the actual movie is insane. I have gone to VHS for movies - you can still get all the classics at your local thrift store. I think this direction https://simplyexplained.com/blog/how-i-built-an-nfc-movie-li... using physical NFC cards is also a fun way to go.

Kids trash discs, but you can give them copies (with menus removed if desired)

Why the downvote?

Yes, so now I am sitting in front of my computer burning discs instead of letting them grab a VHS and sliding it in - clicking the triangle button...

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