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Re: You can just say it

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post #76

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That kind of straw man, that consciousness only emerges from electrical signals, is one of the reasons we haven’t reached AGI yet because we keep underestimating it. There’s way more biological, chemical and physical phenomena going on in brain that gives way to consciousness than just neurons firing ions.

It is still unless proven otherwise a purely physical process.

Yes, but physics is more than electrons.

Re: You can just say it

#232
post #53

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Yeah, that's one of those sentiments where people say it but they probably don't mean it literally. Much like if your boss asks for honest feedback giving it to them with both barrels is a career limiting move. You make subtle mistakes in how you perceive the world, the interlocutor makes similar mistakes and the damage those mistakes do is limited if you follow some structural rules of how to communicate (aka polite…

I would absolutely prefer just getting the raw prompt. Emails are already ridden with enough completely unnecessary parts that are somehow still the cultural norm (eg. signatures). At least let the important part be to the point. I yearn for a world where people write emails the same way they write text messages.

> completely unnecessary parts that are somehow still the cultural norm (eg. signatures)

I don't even know where to start. Long story short: you're wrong.

Re: You can just say it

#233
post #121

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>I love music, but it is the feeling, experience, and emotion of the creator that comes through that I enjoy. This belief is not true and I will fight to the bedrock of psychology and nature against this until the ridiculous sentiment is eradicated from humanity's lexicon. There are fundamental aspects to our perception, across all senses, that lie underneath human creation. You enjoy the warmth of the sun, the cool…

> These all evoke the sense and appreciation of beauty while being completely removed from a creator. Why is it so black and white? There are things like warmth of the sun, that I enjoy without the creator. There are also art and music that I didn't appreciate at first before knowing the story and the creator behind them. Then I understood where the piece of art came from and what were the emotions behind it when cre…

Because one obviously came before the other, one is more natural and biological.

Re: You can just say it

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post #121

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>I love music, but it is the feeling, experience, and emotion of the creator that comes through that I enjoy. This belief is not true and I will fight to the bedrock of psychology and nature against this until the ridiculous sentiment is eradicated from humanity's lexicon. There are fundamental aspects to our perception, across all senses, that lie underneath human creation. You enjoy the warmth of the sun, the cool…

>You enjoy the warmth of the sun, the cool of a breeze, the sound of a running stream, the majesty of mountains and oceans, the power of storms. These all evoke the sense and appreciation of beauty while being completely removed from a creator. I don't think this is true. I think that if you found out you were in a simulation and that all these things were just electrical pulses being sent to your brain in a jar it w…

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Re: You can just say it

#235
post #172
post #123

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If you want to be reductive then everything is already the same. Music is 99% the same chords, art is 99% the same colors, etc... Or you can argue from good faith and actually learn or teach.

Your argument can be used to discredit all arguments, including itself. Because your argument is made only of the same letters as all others (let's stay in English, without losing generality), it is the same as all others, and thus it has no discernible point. Note that it's you who introduced this reduction, not the GP.

The reduction i introduced... was satire. Whoosh . It helps to read the thread before knee jerk responding

Re: You can just say it

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post #231

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It is still unless proven otherwise a purely physical process.

Yes, but physics is more than electrons.

Electrons are not the question. The question is have we modeled it well enough. As of yet to my understanding there is no physical process that requires more power than a Turing machine.

Re: You can just say it

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And yet here you are, strongly reacting to a philosophical argument made by him. He's mortal, he's dead, and yet he's affected you here, a throwaway comment on a forum post no one will think about in a week's time.

He also believed in the immortal soul that survives after death, so he may have had a more literal meaning.

A more critical examination of the whole quote makes it clear he was not being that simple.

Re: You can just say it

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post #185

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Usually my back and forth with the llm is much longer than the result. Add the skills, the context, access to my calendar... I'd probably need to send a zip file instead of 1 short paragraph of text. Maybe letting agents representing people, with access to non public information will be secure in the future. For now, that part is manual. I need to control information on the way out. You probably should find it insult…

Do you really need the agents, skills and them having access to your calendar, plus multiple back and forth, to create an email about scheduling something - and anyway you will have to check it manually?

Yes because it's not a single calendar, and I sometimes need to be reminded of potential plans (not saved on a calendar), history with that specific person ("oh I already made a demo to this person 2 years ago and from my notes, it seems that I didn't get a lot of feedback, perhaps prioritize someone else?"), and other context. I offer the LLM context, and I in return get a distilled context from which it's easier to make decisions.

Writing important emails used to be a 1-2 hour occasion, nowadays only 15 minutes, but surely not 10 seconds.

Re: You can just say it

#239
post #225

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How do you figure that "the billionaire class" doesnt want those policies? Plenty of examples of them supporting those policies. Seems like the opposition is more to the tax hike they know is coming along side it but even then we still see billionaires supporting those policies.

If they do not want to fund it they do not support it. The purpose of the system is what it does. Or in this case, the actions of the billionaire class and their capital are their values and morals.

But they both openly support it and fund it. It just turns out they are not a monolithic group and are split in what they want.

Re: You can just say it

#240
post #90

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What do you feel your response added to the conversation? To me, it reads as a petty attack on a person who is using assisted technology to engage with the community. Which only reflects negatively on you and makes you a jerk and a bully.

You feel someone who is admitting to violating participation and discussion rules.. is adding to the conversation? > Don't post generated comments or AI-edited comments. HN is for conversation between humans. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

With communication issues such as being dyslexic and having shite grammar, or even being a different language, to be able to have the conversation between humans, the technology counts as assistive. At least as described.

"Fix my shit so others can read it" is different than "gimme a comment to respond counter to the thread"

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