iOS really needs LLM-based notification filtering. This would take care of promotional notification spam overnight. It would even enable fine-grained user filtering like "notify when - someone is messaging me about plans for today."
What Apple and Google are doing to push notifications
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I prefer temporarily toggling notifications on because I really don’t trust my internal metronome.
You could set a short timer on your phone. On an iphone, its two clicks away.
Enabling notifications is not difficult. And the driver could arrive before or after the initial estimate.
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#233iOS really needs LLM-based notification filtering. This would take care of promotional notification spam overnight. It would even enable fine-grained user filtering like "notify when - someone is messaging me about plans for today."
Because Apple makes iOS, they could have a much more rigorous solution, like Google’s.
A nondeterministic, energy hungry classifier is inferior to writing a policy to define channels.
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#234iOS really needs LLM-based notification filtering. This would take care of promotional notification spam overnight. It would even enable fine-grained user filtering like "notify when - someone is messaging me about plans for today."
Because Apple makes iOS, they could have a much more rigorous solution, like Google’s. A nondeterministic, energy hungry classifier is inferior to writing a policy to define channels.
You really need both.
Channels are a great first level, and iOS absolutely needs to implement an Android-tier version of this.
But channels continue to be abused, even on Android. When all deterministic controls fail...
Secondly, channels are set by the developer (or platform). In an ideal world, I want to define whatever channels I care about, and turn them on/off at will.
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Yeah, this entire article is pretty transparent that it's from the sender perspective, and worried about platforms taking over "sender control". Who is he kidding? The vast majority of apps have absolutely proven they can't be trusted to respect your attention. From my perspective, the more roadblocks the platforms put between unnecessary notifications and my phone, the better. And I don't think Apple or Google are s…
Notification categories are like mailing lists now. You may have unsubscribed from the daily deals email but you're still going to be auto subscribed to every new slightly modified category in perpetuity. Unless you fully disable notifications for an app (in Android at least, in my experience), new enabled by default notification categories are added all the time.
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#236Also can the browsers finally acknowledge that allowing websites to request the ability to send desktop notifications was a terrible mistake?
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#238If my phone interrupts me, it should either mean someone genuinely needs my attention right now or it should not be disrupting me at all. That's my notification set up. Apps allowed to receive push notifications Phone, Messages, Whatsapp, Apple Health, [brand] bank. That concludes the list. There is no reason any other app needs to be able to instantly ping me. Most apps are not notifying you because something matter…
You're conflating "push notifications" with "being alerted about push notifications." I have many "important but not urgent" apps on my phone configured to just silently add their push notifications into iOS's notification center.
With an app configured to do notifications like this, no banner shows up at the time the app's notifications are delivered; and these notifications don't even show up visibly on the lock screen. You only see this type of notification if you choose to actively scroll down past the "timely" notifications that do get delivered onto your lock screen, to "catch up" on all your notifications.
Basically, these notifications are relegated to an "email inbox" that you can check or not check as you like. But unlike your email inbox, you can go "inbox zero" on your notification "inbox" whenever you like without worry, since notifications (unlike email) are inherently prohibited from being a critical path in an app workflow.
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> I’m sure it’s possible to turn off the marketing messages. Uber may have that functionality, but a surprising number of other apps don't - for example Makro, Tops, and 7/11 Thailand, three very popular Thailand retailers, use notifications for when an order is out for delivery, about to arrive, etc. But they also send constant promotion notifications every day, even with audio alerts enabled.
We must, at some point surely , reach an inflection where even everyday people are sick of this shit and start smashing their phones right? There has always been "unpluggers" [0] amongst technologists, but the vibes are bad and getting worse. I feel like that is getting more common between "normal" people I know, but maybe outside of my country town bubble its not happening. I was thinking we're only one or two big i…
> We must, at some point surely, reach an inflection where even everyday people are sick of this shit and start smashing their phones right?
Never underestimate the ignorance of the average person…
I am talking about those people who consume content while ads blink around the content in a all four directions and they don‘t even actively notice.