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Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Why would people still be using a computer from 2010? That might have made sense in 2015, but beggars belief in 2026.

Not everyone has a well paying tech job. Many have to use their devices until they literally die and many more choose to do so because getting a newer device would mean having to deal with the bullshit of newer software.

I have family on fixed incomes. They don't use 15 year old computers. They simply don't last that long.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Citation needed. I've seen the opposite--unless there's a very specific niche that can't be otherwise solved, there's huge internal resistance to going it alone. The biggest counterexample I can think of: WebUSB was critical to Chromebooks supporting external devices, but I can see why Safari might not want it. It has Firefox support at last, though.

Citation of what exactly? That not all browsers implement the same thing at the same time and that some features are Chrome-exclusive because for one reason or another other browsers refuse to implement it? Is that really something you need a citation on? You sure seem to have come up with an example of your own.

"Chrome likes to make up new standards"

I can think of just one, USB.

Chrome was built on the premise that web standards matter. Remember IE 6?

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Which Google properties are Chrome only? I'm not doubting you but the major ones (search, mail, maps, ads) are extremely cross-platform.

YouTube is terrible on Firefox. There was a period where it was usable but got increasingly worse with missed frames, low frame rate. On FastMail and Gmail the expanded search overlay doesn't disappear when you click outside (ESC doesn't work), you often get stuck with it. On YouTube when you stop hovering over the "I like this" etc. on full screen video view, the tooltip doesn't disappear. It's death by a thousand c…

It sounds like Firefox needs to implement hardware assisted AV1? I don't see how you can plausibly blame anyone but Mozilla for this.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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I'm similar but instead of brave, which I don't trust, prefer Firefox.

I don't trust Firefox either, so I use Zen, which is based on Firefox and also changes the UI.

I don't understand this choice at all. What do you base your trust on here?

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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This seems somewhat specious - it's also quite possible that they just altered the wording to make it less verbose. Does anyone have access to the link "Learn more about on-device AI"? If Chrome starts sending data from the browser back to Google, that's going to be a huge compliance issue. If you work for a company that processes customer data in the browser, you're going to need to ban Chrome.

"Learn more about on-device AI" links to this: https://support.google.com/chrome/answer/16961953

This seems to be what they're hedging against:

> Some AI features in Chrome do not rely on on-device Generative models, and those features may still run even if the on-device Generative AI models are removed.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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Citation of what exactly? That not all browsers implement the same thing at the same time and that some features are Chrome-exclusive because for one reason or another other browsers refuse to implement it? Is that really something you need a citation on? You sure seem to have come up with an example of your own.

"Chrome likes to make up new standards" I can think of just one, USB. Chrome was built on the premise that web standards matter. Remember IE 6?

https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/04/30/mozilla-push...

Remember AMP?

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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It seems to me that adding AI to desktop apps and sending the data back to the mothership for processing is an amazing way to collect data from people who, for the most part, would be completely unaware it's even happening. Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome.

> Heck, most of them think the Internet is Chrome. In the end Google has achieved something that Microsoft couldn't with Internet Explorer, and won the Browser Wars. Google managed to aggressively advertise their browser by optional install "offer" within Windows installers of software. And they were aiming exactly at all those who couldn't tell the difference between the web browsers and who were conditioned by more…

Not just allow, they cheered it on.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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"Chrome likes to make up new standards" I can think of just one, USB. Chrome was built on the premise that web standards matter. Remember IE 6?

https://www.theregister.com/software/2026/04/30/mozilla-push... Remember AMP?

AMP wasn't part of Chrome.

The Prompt API is part of a real W3C standard: https://www.w3.org/2025/03/webmachinelearning-charter.html

It's not even chaired by Google. It's Intel, believe it or not.

Re: Chrome removes claim of On-device Al not sending data to Google Servers

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I called this out when it was announced on here. Supposedly the team lead replied to my comment saying this wouldn't happen. I rolled my eyes but asked will android be able to use those models for ex filtration. No reply. And apparently the original claim was not true either lol. Maybe I'm misremembering it. Google is awful. My goodness. I hate Android and can't wait to be rid of it. Graphene and it's buddies can't r…

Maybe I'm misremembering it. What you should've done is saved what they said so you could post it directly as evidence. If they're collecting all the data they can, you should naturally also have the right to do the same! I've noticed they're increasingly memory-holing a lot of things that, somewhat coincidentally, are inconvenient truths.

It's in my comment history..sometime last week. I don't really care, I knew this was a surveillance move that's why I called it out. No clue if the anonymous poster was who they claimed to be anyways

Here is the comment: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=47930833

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