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Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by recursive »

cmckn wrote: post #197
recursive wrote: post #152

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Google user here. My experience with the new assistant is worse. The old one could pretty reliably set timers. The new one could not.

I like that I can ask more nuanced questions without getting dumped to a web search, and I can have a back-and-forth conversation. But timers and smart home actions are definitely less reliable and sometimes take absurdly long to respond (like 20-30 seconds p99).

Your experience is valid of course, but I never once have had the inclination to have a conversation with my phone. I'm not sure which of our experiences is more common.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by bigyabai »

rib3ye wrote: post #228
bigyabai wrote: post #211

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Sure, if they push garbage updates like Liquid Glass to billions of customers.

You think THAT was the vibe coded feature?

Yes, on iOS and macOS. Apple has been partnered with Anthropic since Q2 2025, do you think they wrote it all by hand?

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by stouset »

gambiting wrote: post #227
evilduck wrote: post #223

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People end up thinking Apple invented something because they tend to make the first usable version of something that could appeal to the general population.

I literally can't think of an example. Care to share one?

I’ll give you a hint: you may very well have replied on this category of device.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by recursive »

BeetleB wrote: post #188
recursive wrote: post #152

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Google user here. My experience with the new assistant is worse. The old one could pretty reliably set timers. The new one could not.

Oh man. I made the mistake of converting my Google Home devices to Gemini. The first problem is that it's just slow. If I want it to turn off some light, it takes a long time before responding. But yeah, the failure to do basic tasks. I have a routine that I used to have it run (controls several devices at once). Now: 10-20% of the time it runs it. 60% of the time it says it's running it but it doesn't do anything. 2…

I don't know if it's related to Gemini, but sometimes the Android Auto tells me "I don't have permission to do that" simultaneously with actually doing the thing that is allegedly lacking permission. Sometimes I want to move off the grid.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by dudeinhawaii »

ShyCodeGardener wrote: post #86
DaiPlusPlus wrote: post #73

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"objectively better" is a subjective statement :) My preference, however, is for a voice-control UX just like I get with my Amazon Echo and "classic" Alexa like I have been for the past 10 years I've been using it: I think I can best describe it as a "voice-driven command-line" just like your OS' CLI shell, which makes its interactions predictable, even if it means I need to "know" what commands are valid in a given…

Whenever I see one of these comments, it's always from someone that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience. And many times there are more people commenting back that this was essentially the 1.0 version and that the current 2.0 version is much better. So as someone that uses none of these products (old voice assistants vs. ai ones) it's really hard to evaluate if any of these anecdotes mea…

I'm not an Alexa user myself but I have watched my wife interact with it for around 5years now.

The new Alexa powered by an LLM is objectively better that previous Alexa in a few ways. This much was apparently from day one and has only gotten smoother.

1. It can reliably execute direct or vague-ish commands "play X movie in app Y" or "play x show" and can infer X movie is only available in app Z so use that.

2. Speech recognition seems better (less instances of 5x round trips)

3. Conversational with multi-turn --- my wife can have a back and forth clarifying a topic.

4. Seems to understand intent a bit better. (user asked A so they are probably thinking about B)

Those may seem small but they were a tremendous source of annoyance for her -- and thus for me -- "Alexa is not listening, do something!"

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by steve1977 »

nebula8804 wrote: post #217
simgt wrote: post #76

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> I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb. I don't think that's part of their decision making, Liquid Glass moved most things around for seemingly not much else than novelty and that's not the first time.

Liquid Glass makes sense if this is what they are working towards: https://www.macrumors.com/guide/20th-anniversary-iphone/ They have done this before, release something large early in anticipation of a major shift and iron out issues before the shift happens. Liquid Glass started off a little janky but they appear to have been ironing out initial issues with each update.

From what I understand (which might be wrong), Liquid Glass was at least partially inspired by visionOS and "spatial computing". And I guess on that platform it might make sense for some use cases.

That doesn't change the fact that I can hardly read some of the user interface in Apple Music for example.

It's not that the idea is bad, but it's badly executed.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by stickfigure »

recursive wrote: post #152
acdha wrote: post #34

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Who’s doing it better? I have yet to hear from a Google or Amazon user who has a transformatively better experience, and I think that’s why they haven’t jumped so far because they have hundreds of millions of users who have daily habits that they don’t want to lightly disturb.

Google user here. My experience with the new assistant is worse. The old one could pretty reliably set timers. The new one could not.

Strong disagree. The upgrade was a little bit rough at first (mostly because of slow response) but now it's a million times better than the old assistant. The old assistant basically just repeated "I don't know how to do that" over and over.

I have never had trouble setting timers with either.

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Post by rfmc »

zipy124 wrote: post #219
coldpie wrote: post #70

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It's trending in that direction. If you want genuine conversation with humans, it's best to start looking for small, private communities that have and enforce LLM policies that align with your desires. Public social media is universally trash, don't waste your time there. I think HN is still worth visiting for now, but it's getting harder to justify spending time here with the quantity of garbage-quality LLM articles…

Lobsters still maintains a reliable comment section free of bots (for now!).

Do you happen to have an invite? (I don’t know exactly how the system works)

I never felt the need before but things have changed.

My email is on my profile.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by DaiPlusPlus »

dudeinhawaii wrote: post #235
ShyCodeGardener wrote: post #86

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Whenever I see one of these comments, it's always from someone that tried it at the start and then gave up because of a bad experience. And many times there are more people commenting back that this was essentially the 1.0 version and that the current 2.0 version is much better. So as someone that uses none of these products (old voice assistants vs. ai ones) it's really hard to evaluate if any of these anecdotes mea…

I'm not an Alexa user myself but I have watched my wife interact with it for around 5years now. The new Alexa powered by an LLM is objectively better that previous Alexa in a few ways. This much was apparently from day one and has only gotten smoother. 1. It can reliably execute direct or vague-ish commands "play X movie in app Y" or "play x show" and can infer X movie is only available in app Z so use that. 2. Speec…

> It can reliably execute direct or vague-ish commands "play X movie in app Y" or "play x show" and can infer X movie is only available in app Z so use that.

...how does that work, exactly? (or rather: what's the context here?); there's no possible way for an Alexa+-powered Amazon Echo to control my AppleTV or interface with VLC on my desktop.

Re: Apple accidentally left Claude.md files Apple Support app

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Post by elicash »

dqh wrote: post #206

I’ve been wondering if vibe coding was responsible for the recent introduction of acoustic echo cancellation (AEC) bugs in FaceTime (muting and unmuting the microphone appears to temporarily fix it). Apple has always had excellent AEC in my experience, it’s sad to see them breaking a fundamental phone function.

It could also be the problem was that they tried to code it themselves instead of letting a computer do it.

Like doing long division by hand instead of trusting a calculator.

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