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Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by nh2 »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #58
Meekro wrote: post #44

I really want to like Zed because they've clearly put so much work into it, but so far I've been sticking with Sublime. I have several large PHP projects that were started in the 2010-2020 era, and Zed will highlight and complain about all sorts of minor things that were standard PHP fare at the time: functions without return types, for example. My code (which works fine) looks like an ocean of red when I view it wit…

I love Sublime, but I don't want to pay to upgrade from 3 to whatever version it is now, Zed is everything I wanted Sublime to be. Honestly, I wanted VS Code but fully native, and I feel like that's what I'm getting from Zed. I feel like some people will be put off by all the "AI" mentioned by Zed, but you're sleeping on a top tier editor where you can just ignore the AI stuff if you don't want it. It's very high qua…

I tried Zed last month but found that it uses high CPU usage even when idle (up to 50% of 1 core of my i7-7500U).

This is even higher CPU usage than my vscode causes.

Sublime does not do that; in fact it has 0% CPU usage when idle:

    sudo strace -fyp "$(pidof sublime_text)"
shows that Sublime issues no syscalls when idle, as it should be.

(Note, you need to either unfocus it so that the caret stops flashing, or switch from fading caret to fixed / non-fading caret, otherwise it necessarily has to do syscalls to draw itself.)

Zed spams syscalls even when its screen is entirely still:

    strace -fyp "$(pidof zed-editor)"
In fact Zed makes 800 syscalls per second when completely idle and unfocused.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by sieve »

mosdl wrote: post #217
sieve wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was using JetBrains for more than a decade. Then I got into Python as well and so was juggling between WebStorm, PyCharm, CLion and Intellij Idea. Zed has replaced the first three completely. Put the appropriate config file in project root for whichever LSP/linter/tool is running, and most of these warnings disappear. Writing C in Zed is a wonderful experience. The LSPs surface errors in an manner that is very easy…

A bit confused - Idea supports pythong and ts/js, why the need for three?

The UI is a bit different for each and I got used to the differences I guess. I have a lot of projects and I pick one IDE for each and then do not deviate from it.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by sudb »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #75

Congrats to the Zed team for building the best modern editor I have ever used. I subscribe to the monthly plan just to give you guys the funding you need, even if my funding is a tiny drop in the bucket. I always wanted a feature rich alternative to Sublime Text that can run anywhere and do basically anything I need from it. I've use JetBrains IDEs for years (been subscribed annually since 2017), but since Zed I have…

it's now my go-to for when I need to wrangle basically any text file manually - has handled everything I can throw at it (some of which has crashed other editors -looking at you Cursor/VSCode)

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by artooro »

Been loving Zed for the last few months. The Dev Containers were the last thing I needed to switch over and been steady ever since.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by post-it »

IshKebab wrote: post #121
alimbada wrote: post #19

[flagged]

One of the people working for one of their investors posts moderately controversial stuff on Twitter. Boycott them!! This kind of nonsense really takes away from stuff that actually matters.

One of the owners of one of their investors. I think it's still too far removed for the project to be obligated to care.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by nh2 »

nh2 wrote: post #231
giancarlostoro wrote: post #58

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I love Sublime, but I don't want to pay to upgrade from 3 to whatever version it is now, Zed is everything I wanted Sublime to be. Honestly, I wanted VS Code but fully native, and I feel like that's what I'm getting from Zed. I feel like some people will be put off by all the "AI" mentioned by Zed, but you're sleeping on a top tier editor where you can just ignore the AI stuff if you don't want it. It's very high qua…

I tried Zed last month but found that it uses high CPU usage even when idle (up to 50% of 1 core of my i7-7500U). This is even higher CPU usage than my vscode causes. Sublime does not do that; in fact it has 0% CPU usage when idle: sudo strace -fyp "$(pidof sublime_text)" shows that Sublime issues no syscalls when idle, as it should be. (Note, you need to either unfocus it so that the caret stops flashing, or switch…

Syscall spamming is one of the main reasons why computers get slow when many apps are running.

Good software does not do that; when idle, it should only consume RAM, not CPU.

Aside: Browsers, and Electron, seem to always syscall-spam no matter what, which is probably a key reason why people feel that all Electron apps bog down their computers. When your computer gets faster, the software just does more syscall loops per second, for unchanged misery.

Re: Zed 1.0

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Post by post-it »

shevy-java wrote: post #56

> Zed is also an AI-native editor. My editor is dumb. No AI anywhere. The only unusual thing is that I use ruby as primary glue language to everything, so in a way that editor (no longer maintained, similar to Linus' editor) is just a wrapper over ruby as such, and functionality in these scripts. I have also found that it is not the editor that slows me down, but the need to have to think. This is also one reason why…

> recreates makefiles from scratch

> "These guys don't understand why simplicity is a benefit"

I'm not really criticizing, clearly your system works for you. Ironically, as I've been using AI more, I've been rolling more systems that work for me instead of relying on existing ones. It's very freeing.

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