In light of this, does anyone have a DGX Spark and use it as a coding agent?
GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
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Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#232The era of subsidised inference is truly ending. The new model multipliers ( https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing... ) seem like a huge leap, though. From 1x to 6x for new-ish GPT and Sonnet models. 27x for Opus... Seems like folks would be better off with OpenRouter instead.
Everyone seems to believe OpenRouter isn't subsidizing but, until they publish audited financials, I personally doubt it.
OpenRouter doesn't even have hardware. What are they possibly subsidizing? The platform costs?
OpenRouter is guaranteed to be about the highest margin operator in the business right now. Everyone wishes they'd be them, skimming 5% off as the middleman without any OpEx.
Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#233I pay for Copilot annually, and mostly for its code auto completion features. I use CC if I want to do anything agentic. Not sure if I want to pay more for occasionally-good-intellisense at this point.
Same! I wonder what other alternatives there might be for autocomplete.
autocomplete is still unlimited within the subscription, maybe using a free model or even cheaper ones are best value..
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#234Earlier quoted context omitted.
It would have been profitable if that premium credit cost more than a negotiated discounted rate with Anthropic. We have no way of knowing if there were negotiated rates though!
Guys, you're discussing a house of cards to begin with: No matter how you're paying for the $CURRENTSOTA you're not garunteed that next month what you pay for will be the same. So, lets do some honest evaluations: 1. The model itself is a non-deterministic engine of work with an unknown value; it's real value is just magic. 2. The business model itself is non-deterministic engine of profit with a known value; whateve…
The problem with assuming that tokens can only get more expensive is that the Chinese open weight LLM firms have dropped models which have a known, fixed price that can never get more expensive (since we can run them on hardware we own).
Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#235Glad this was announced because I didn't even realize that our (small) team has been paying $20/month for Github Copilot when none of us are using it, so used the opportunity to cancel CoPilot altogether. I think it was free when I first activated it (this was also before Claude, Codex, Gemini, and while not that great, it was why not), and didn't realize it had switched to paid and bundled with our Github bill, and now per usage.
Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#236I pay for Copilot annually, and mostly for its code auto completion features. I use CC if I want to do anything agentic. Not sure if I want to pay more for occasionally-good-intellisense at this point.
Code completions and Next Edit Suggestions remain free with Copilot Pro.
Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#237I pay for Copilot annually, and mostly for its code auto completion features. I use CC if I want to do anything agentic. Not sure if I want to pay more for occasionally-good-intellisense at this point.
I'm similarly thinking about sticking with the auto-downgrade back to Copilot Free when the annual sub ends and then just yelling about it any months I hit the 2000 completion cap.
I wouldn't mind a plan between Free and Pro that is just "all I care about is code completion and next edit suggestions".
Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#238I pay for Copilot annually, and mostly for its code auto completion features. I use CC if I want to do anything agentic. Not sure if I want to pay more for occasionally-good-intellisense at this point.
Code completions and Next Edit Suggestions remain free with Copilot Pro.
But you can no longer amortize annually, which makes it even more a question of "is this worth it this month?" each month. Especially for personal accounts.
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#239vindication! https://www.wheresyoured.at/exclusive-microsoft-moving-all-g...
I thought of this as soon as I saw the headline: I hope this is the start. Crossing my fingers to see more line up with your predictions.
Re: GitHub Copilot is moving to usage-based billing
#240Something is hilariously off here: Why should I pay $10 and be forced to use it by the end of the month, while I can pay $10 and have it last as long as I want? Their "API pricing" is exactly the same as that of providers: https://docs.github.com/en/copilot/reference/copilot-billing...
Enterprise gets pooled credits and will like having everything go through one place so I think it still works.
You can pool credits through open router (afaik, I'm only using a single user account), but if you top-up $10 per user, per month, any unused credits will rollover.
Tbh I think it still works, but only because the new allowance will likely get used very quickly within a billing cycle - I'm expecting this change to increase our orgs bill significantly based on how many API credits with open router I consume in a weekend using a single agent in a pairing style.
The pooling will only be useful if you have a bunch of infrequent/low usage users that you still want to have licenses.