Does that include OpenCode? That's what I care about most and it's the primary reason I've been sticking with OAI the past few months.
Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Naive question but are you not afraid z.ai will train on your personal data?
FAANG already did this all the time isn't it? Regardless of their policy. US is no better than China from my point of view. In this case, I see no difference between sending my prompts to US or China companies. At least China models are open source.
I guess it depends if you are working on something important to national security. Especially corporate codebases, etc.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#233Earlier quoted context omitted.
Nobody said anything about the correctness of the announcement.
> Keep in mind this is hearsay How, exactly, is that not saying something about the announcement?
It's saying something about the announcement, it's not saying something about the correctness of the announcement.
I used the word hearsay to imply that flip-flopping should only be a judgement on the comms of the entity accused of flip-flopping, not information living on some third party source.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#234so if i use openclaw style cli that looks like opencode ai or other agentic style applications then that would be acceptable?
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#235Well that's clear as mud. I've complained, extensively, about this before but Anthropic really needs to make it clear what is and is not supported with or without a subscription. Until then, it's hard to know where you stand with using their products. I say all of this as someone who doesn't use OpenClaw or any Claw-like product currently. I just want to know what I can and can't do and currently it's impossible to k…
The poor communication and flip-flopping are what concern me. How can I buy into an ecosystem that might disallow one of my main workflows? I currently use several hook scripts to route specific work to different models. Will they disallow that at some point? We don't know because they can't get their story straight.
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Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#236Well that's clear as mud. I've complained, extensively, about this before but Anthropic really needs to make it clear what is and is not supported with or without a subscription. Until then, it's hard to know where you stand with using their products. I say all of this as someone who doesn't use OpenClaw or any Claw-like product currently. I just want to know what I can and can't do and currently it's impossible to k…
I don’t get why people are so surprised. Didn’t they learn anything from Twitter APIs and the like. The APIs are open as long as they serve the short term problem then Anthropic builds the features people actually use (more or less) and ban the usage of APIs for competing clients
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#237Earlier quoted context omitted.
If I drop $10k on a souped-up Mac Studio, can that run a competent open-source model for OpenClaw?
Qwen is probably your best bet… Edit: I’d also consider waiting for WWDC, they are supposed to be launching the new Mac Studio, an even if you don’t get it, you might be able to snag older models for cheaper
Latest rumors are no Mac Studio until at least October.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#238Earlier quoted context omitted.
This is called FUD, amplify negativity, silence positivity
It's also something super simple to clarify from Anthropic if they want.
They have, many times. We're seeing a chain where people are pointing to openclaw's github for information (a tool that was effectively acquired by their #1 competitor) and trying to make it sound so crazy. The actual flow was simple- They said "don't use your claude code membership on tools that burn lots of the subsidized tokens". Then a bunch of people raised a fit (because openclaw is almost useless without claude models), so Anthropic basically said "That's what the API keys are for".
Antropic has the info on their website, emailed all users for each step, and I've seen it on X- I'm sure it's in other places as well.
Re: Anthropic says OpenClaw-style Claude CLI usage is allowed again
#239My OpenClaw assistant (who's been using Claude) lost all his personality over the last week, and couldn't figure out how to do things he never had any issues doing. I racked up about $28 worth of usage and then it just stopped consuming anymore, so I don't know if there was some other issue, but it was persistent. I got sick of it and used a migration script to move my assistant's history and personality to a claude…
Well when the middleman between you and your users is bought out by the competitor, it makes sense to move away from it. It's a bit like Apple selling iPhones in a Microsoft store.
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