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Post by kypro »

RivieraKid wrote: post #206
oliver236 wrote: post #12

isn't this insane? why aren't people freaking out? the jump in capability is outrageous. anyone?

I've been increasingly "freaking out" since about 3 - 4 years ago and it seems that the pessimistic scenario is materializing. It looks like it will be over for software engineers in a not so distant future. In January 2025 I said that I expect software engineers to be replaced in 2 years (pessimistic) to 5 years (optimistic). Right now I'm guessing 1 to 3 years.

I assure you it will soon become very clear that mass job losses are one of the least concerning side effects of developing the magic "everything that can plausibly been done within the constraints of physics is now possible" machine.

We're opening a can of worms which I don't think most people have the imagination to understand the horrors of.

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Post by anentropic »

metadaemon wrote: post #119
anentropic wrote: post #102

I'd be happy with Opus 4.6 just cheaper and maybe a bit faster

I've noticed my bar for "fast" has gone down quite a bit since the o1 days. It used to be one of the main things I evaluated new models for, but I've almost completely swapped to caring more about correctness over speed.

Yeah I don't mind the current speed of Opus

I did give up on OpenCode Go (GLM 5) as it was noticeably slower though

You need a reasonable pace for the chit-chat stages of a task, I don't care if the execution then takes a while

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Post by quotemstr »

scrawl wrote: post #178
quotemstr wrote: post #76

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is why the EAs, and their almost comic-book-villain projects like "control AI dot com" cannot be allowed to win. One private company gatekeeping access to revolutionary technology is riskier than any consequence of the technology itself.

Having done a quick search of "control AI dot com", it seems their intent is educate lawmakers & government in order to aid development of a strong regulatory framework around frontier AI development. Not sure how this is consistent with "One private company gatekeeping access to revolutionary technology"?

> strong regulatory framework around frontier AI development

You have to decode feel-good words into the concrete policy. The EAs believe that the state should prohibit entities not aligned with their philosophy to develop AIs beyond a certain power level.

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Post by aurareturn »

oblio wrote: post #188
sghiassy wrote: post #132

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Chinese competition can always be banned. Example: Chinese electric car competition

Also Chinese smartphones. Huawei was about 12-18 months from becoming the biggest smartphone manufacturer in the world a few years ago. If it would have been allowed to sell its phones freely in the US I'm fairly sure Apple would have been closer to Nokia than to current day Apple.

If Huawei was never banned from using TSMC, they'd likely have a real Nvidia competitor and may have surpassed Apple in mobile chip designs.

They actually beat Apple A series to become the first phone to use the TSMC N7 node.

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Post by MattRix »

orphea wrote: post #121
influx wrote: post #18

At what point do these companies stop releasing models and just use them to bootstrap AGI for themselves?

Can LLMs be AGI at all?

I don't see why not, especially with computer use and vision capabilities. Are you talking about their lack of physical embodiment? AGI is about cognitive ability, not physical. Think of someone like Stephen Hawking, an example of having extraordinary general intelligence despite severe physical limitations.

Re: System Card: Claude Mythos Preview [pdf]

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Post by MattRix »

kypro wrote: post #231
RivieraKid wrote: post #206

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I've been increasingly "freaking out" since about 3 - 4 years ago and it seems that the pessimistic scenario is materializing. It looks like it will be over for software engineers in a not so distant future. In January 2025 I said that I expect software engineers to be replaced in 2 years (pessimistic) to 5 years (optimistic). Right now I'm guessing 1 to 3 years.

I assure you it will soon become very clear that mass job losses are one of the least concerning side effects of developing the magic "everything that can plausibly been done within the constraints of physics is now possible" machine. We're opening a can of worms which I don't think most people have the imagination to understand the horrors of.

yeesh yep, though it's more Pandora's Box than a can of worms, since it can't exactly be closed once it's opened

Re: System Card: Claude Mythos Preview [pdf]

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Post by wslh »

orphea wrote: post #121
influx wrote: post #18

At what point do these companies stop releasing models and just use them to bootstrap AGI for themselves?

Can LLMs be AGI at all?

LLMs and human intelligence overlap, but they are not the same. What LLMs show is that we don't need AGI to be impressed. For example, LLMs are not good playing games such as Go [1].

[1] https://arxiv.org/abs/2601.16447

Re: System Card: Claude Mythos Preview [pdf]

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Post by notrealyme123 »

swalsh wrote: post #223
ru552 wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's speculation that next Tuesday will be a big day for OpenAI and possibly GPT 6. Anthropic showed their hand today.

My understanding is GPT 6 works via synaptic space reasoning... which I find terrifying. I hope if true, OpenAI does some safety testing on that, beyond what they normally do.

That's sounds really interesting. Do you have some hints where to read more?
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