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Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by marssaxman »

rvba wrote: post #211
kleiba wrote: post #200

My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

I understand what you mean, however it's still quite hilarious that there is an user on checks notes hacker news, who does not have a phone. This reminds me of the Japanese cybersecurity minister who did not use a computer. Bonus points if you work at Apple, or Google and work on iOS or Android. Would explain a lot why they are the way they are.

It's not so hilarious, really; there's nothing like a stint in the sausage factory to put one off one's taste for sausage.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

vaylian wrote: post #208
crazygringo wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you don't give the app any permissions, it doesn't spy on you either. It doesn't have any more information than the info you give it to buy the tickets in the first place.

> It doesn't have any more information than the info you give it to buy the tickets in the first place. Many apps ask for permission to use your GPS position and other sensor data, even though they don't need it. Most non-technical people don't understand what that means and will just allow it.

I have absolutely never in 15+ years of having an iPhone had an app ask for GPS or sensor data when it clearly wasn’t necessary for functionality like a maps app or Uber.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by tomwheeler »

crazygringo wrote: post #206
SoftTalker wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It does when the ticket app demands Location access "to protect your security"

You can set location to only while you're using the app. And when you open it to scan the ticket, they already know where you are . You're at the entrance to the stadium where they scan your tickets.

And that's when you find out the app considers this usage pattern as a signal of fraud, so then you can't get into the event and have no recourse. Their app, their rules, your loss.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

9rx wrote: post #98
crazygringo wrote: post #52

From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…

> If this guy has the money for a season pass (!) he has the money for a smartphone. Right, but he is wanting to choose the season pass over the smartphone. If he buys a smartphone then he won't have the money for a season pass anymore. It turns out you only get to spend x units of currency once.

A cheap undubsidized Android phone is $40 on Amazon

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by throwaway270925 »

MandieD wrote: post #93

My 75-year-old, retired construction worker dad’s fingers are nearly useless on capacitive screens; half a century of handling cement apparently has that effect. His deep East Texas accent was still only semi comprehensible to Siri the last time I had him try with my phone. He recently missed several notifications from his truck’s dealership that the part they ordered was in and ready for installation, because they s…

Do iphones not have "increase touch sensitivity" as a setting? Thats all I had to do for my dad for him to be able to easily use it again, on a samsung though.

There are also phones with buttons again, the unihertz titan 2 elite looks good btw. Or Clicks addon keyboards.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by mbreese »

throwawaypath wrote: post #209
kleiba wrote: post #200

My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

>Turns out you must have a smart phone Any phone that can receive SMS, not a smartphone. You could purchase a burner flip phone for this purpose.

Sometimes the code must be received through the bank’s app. I went though this process recently to open a new account (at a bank where I already had other accounts). I didn’t think much of it at the time, but if you didn’t have or want a smartphone, this could be a major problem.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by raw_anon_1111 »

radiator wrote: post #163
pc86 wrote: post #46

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, it's not. If you are physically incapable of operating a piece of technology, the ADA covers reasonable accommodations for that. If you are simply unwilling to learn how to use a piece of technology, it doesn't and shouldn't cover that. Being a luddite is not a protected class.

Look at how conveniently you chose to ignore the fan's age, attributing his behaviour to unwilling or luddite ! Or do you really have absolutely no idea, what it means to be 81 years old? Still, I would bet you have met at least some people of such an age.

That’s the age of my Microsoft office, three computer having multiple printer using mother…

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by jjgreen »

rvba wrote: post #211
kleiba wrote: post #200

My wife and I had an appointment last week to apply for a line of credit. We talked it all through with the clerk and decided to go for it, so he started the whole process on his computer. His jaw dropped half-way through when he asked for my wife's and my phone number, and I had to tell him that I don't own a smart phone. Turns out you must have a smart phone because the system sends you some kind of code to verify…

I understand what you mean, however it's still quite hilarious that there is an user on checks notes hacker news, who does not have a phone. This reminds me of the Japanese cybersecurity minister who did not use a computer. Bonus points if you work at Apple, or Google and work on iOS or Android. Would explain a lot why they are the way they are.

Ahem, more than one ...

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by avanwyk »

crazygringo wrote: post #52

From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…

This is a strong disagree from me. What this is implying is that the customer now has to buy into two ecosystems: the expensive, Dodgers, tickets, and stadium world; and the far more perilous, casino in your pocket, attention sucking, hell, that's smartphones. Countless articles are being written on the effect of smartphones on the elderly (and teens). But you know what? Fuck'em. Because progress.

Another comment suggested grandfathering in customers like this. Sure, that's one idea. But generally, don't punish the masses because of the crimes of the few.

I'm certain VIPs don't scan their phones when they come to the game. This man is nothing short of a VIP.

Re: 81yo Dodgers fan can no longer get tickets because he doesn't have a smartphone

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Post by carlosjobim »

moondance wrote: post #67
crazygringo wrote: post #52

From my quick research online, it seems they've gone digital-only for season tickets because they don't want people just reselling them to turn a profit. They want actual season-long fans, so now if you transfer too many games they can track it and ban you. This is essentially anti-scalping. There's a legit justification. You can still buy paper tickets at the stadium for a single game. But not for season passes anym…

Have you had the pleasure of coaching a technologically illiterate grandparent through the process of learning how to use a smartphone? It’s a never-ending job and disheartening for all parties involved. Modern mobile UX is not designed with accessibility for the elderly in mind, and it is constantly changing in a way that demands constant re-learning. Not to mention the disabilities and neurological conditions often…

In a case like this, you just buy the tickets for your grandfather and print them out for him.
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