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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 1:57 PM UTC

stevenwoo wrote: post #84

nozzlegear wrote: post #18

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Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

Germany got a new type of government. The 2/3 required in USA for significant change will be insurmountable short of a disaster on order of second Great Depression since plurality of American voters can’t see past next paycheck, no Democrat that can win Presidential primary has any kind of revolutionary vision, it’s all muted, even Bernie got squashed by centrist voters eventually and he was not even that far to the…

Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016, because free trade reduces global stratification and being against trade and immigration like Bernie was (and is) to protect American jobs is elitism.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:00 PM UTC

evilduck wrote: post #58

nozzlegear wrote: post #18

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Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

You also have to consider the outside intervention forcibly imposed upon Germany, after being defeated in war both times, and how the first round of that contributed directly to WWII. It's not exactly a playbook to copy verbatim.

I'm on the record that America needs a third Reconstruction era.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:01 PM UTC

rchaud wrote: post #92

nozzlegear wrote: post #18

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Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

Germany changed its constitution, banned its former ruling party, and actively explores and teaches their school kids about their crimes. The US on the other hand has a chunk of its electorate flying Confederate flags and voting for politicians who think US history textbooks should be more "pro-American".

I'm not saying the country is perfect right now. We need a third Reconstruction.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by MarsIronPI » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:03 PM UTC

villedespommes wrote: post #181

simgt wrote: post #167

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How many people voted for that "one individual causing chaos" again? 70 million? He's also backed by billionaires and an administration that seems to be just as unhinged. It's not one person causing chaos, it's a whole country with its violent culture. The scale changed slightly, but it's also nothing new.

This. There are really two explanations here. Either the US hasn't been a democracy in the first place. Or the majority of the US voters prefer autocratic amoral psychopaths running their country.

> Either the US hasn't been a democracy in the first place.

Well, it really wasn't, and still isn't. It's a republic: the people decide who make the laws and who executes them. In between these choices there's never really been anything for the people to do but ask their representatives to do things.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by nozzlegear » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:04 PM UTC

vrganj wrote: post #39

nozzlegear wrote: post #18

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Never is a long time. Look at where Germany was after both WWI and WWII, and where it is now; it's demonstrably possible to cause irreparable damage to everyone around you, and then rise back to the top (multiple times!). The only questions are timeline and scale.

Germany wasn't and isn't the world's hegemon. I don't think that position is recoverable the same way.

It was the hegemon of Europe though, and it is once again – at least economically. I don't know much about European culture to say how popular German pop culture is there though.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by MarsIronPI » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:07 PM UTC

actionfromafar wrote: post #186

bebop wrote: post #127

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They don’t have the cult of personality to hold on to power in the same way djt does.

Who needs personality when you got your own stormtroopers with guns?

You need to stop the people with guns from killing you and your stormtroopers. That's what the Second Amendment is for.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by ratrace » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:13 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #231

stevenwoo wrote: post #84

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Germany got a new type of government. The 2/3 required in USA for significant change will be insurmountable short of a disaster on order of second Great Depression since plurality of American voters can’t see past next paycheck, no Democrat that can win Presidential primary has any kind of revolutionary vision, it’s all muted, even Bernie got squashed by centrist voters eventually and he was not even that far to the…

Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016, because free trade reduces global stratification and being against trade and immigration like Bernie was (and is) to protect American jobs is elitism.

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Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by Our_Benefactors » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:53 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #231

stevenwoo wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Germany got a new type of government. The 2/3 required in USA for significant change will be insurmountable short of a disaster on order of second Great Depression since plurality of American voters can’t see past next paycheck, no Democrat that can win Presidential primary has any kind of revolutionary vision, it’s all muted, even Bernie got squashed by centrist voters eventually and he was not even that far to the…

Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016, because free trade reduces global stratification and being against trade and immigration like Bernie was (and is) to protect American jobs is elitism.

> Hillary Clinton was to the left of Bernie Sanders in 2016

No, this is so factually untrue as to be offensive.

Hillary is a party stooge through and through, it’s why she was essentially installed as the 2016 dem candidate, in spite of voter preferences. They did Bernie dirty

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by vrganj » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:54 PM UTC

nozzlegear wrote: post #235

vrganj wrote: post #39

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Germany wasn't and isn't the world's hegemon. I don't think that position is recoverable the same way.

It was the hegemon of Europe though, and it is once again – at least economically. I don't know much about European culture to say how popular German pop culture is there though.

The "hegemon of Europe" was the "Franco-German engine" for the longest time.

The engine has stalled though and the center of gravity is shifting East (Poland) and South (Spain, Italy).

United in diversity, as is our motto.

Re: Japanese, French and Omani vessels cross Strait of Hormuz

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Post by freewilly23 » Mon, Apr 06, 2026, 2:54 PM UTC

simgt wrote: post #167

e2le wrote: post #16

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We are 1 Year and 3 months into this current administration, 2 years and 9 months remain. Despite the short period in office, so much damage and chaos has being caused by one individual and the sycophants who surround him. It is a fact that the reputation of the USA has being damaged, perhaps not repairable for decades or more. This will have consequences. Perhaps, I hope, Americans will take action to save the democ…

How many people voted for that "one individual causing chaos" again? 70 million? He's also backed by billionaires and an administration that seems to be just as unhinged. It's not one person causing chaos, it's a whole country with its violent culture. The scale changed slightly, but it's also nothing new.

exactly. and i think a lot of things have always been this way in the mighty usa. the only difference is, that the donald behaves like a brazen clown, not trying to hide anything, so it is easier for everyone to see what's going on.