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Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by leftpad77 »

Levitating wrote: post #132
HeckFeck wrote: post #127

I got my Steam Deck that month, so pleased to be a part of it. The Deck fills a gap that has been empty in my soul since the PSP was discontinued, and feels like a genuine step forward that makes technology fun again. It's fully open! It has a KDE desktop that I can access any time! I can shove in any size of SSD I like! And I'm playing Halo 3... on Linux... on hardware made by Steam. If you spoke that sentence to me…

Yep it's crazy. The SteamDeck alone gives me the hope that we will see mainstream use of (desktop) linux within my lifetime. People need to get their hands on real, working, consumer-friendly devices running Linux out-of-the-box.

Agreed. Roll on steam machine as well! I prefer handheld, but the more linux-based gaming we can get out there, the better

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by margorczynski »

petu wrote: post #216
margorczynski wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe something using AI could be implemented - does a screenshot of your game e.g. every second and if it detects anything that would suggest cheating then it informs some central system and sends it a movie of you playing for the final verdict. Of course this all is based on the assumption that the local AI can do this fast enough with enough precision.

That runs on client side, so can easily be tampered with (assuming you're suggesting that instead of secure boot chain). Also cheat HUD elements can be simply rendered outside of game window (or even on another device like smartphone).

Well my suggestion is that the local part (which could analyze everything that is happening locally, not only the screen) would be the initial filter and if it detects any hint it takes some data package and sends it to some centralized online system that would provide a final verdict (and ban if needed).

But as you say if it is local then you can essentially run anything on the computer and modify what is ran on it. That basically means it is impossible to make an anti-cheat that is 100% bulletproof aside from something strange like buying a locked-in camera which you need to place behind you as it records everything you do on the PC and then the AI thing happens as I explained.

Maybe for pro play and tournaments that would be acceptable but not for the average player.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by ehnto »

mikkupikku wrote: post #160

Pewdiepie becoming an arch-pilled rice-maxxer who advocates Linux for freedom and gaming has surely had some effect. He's such a good sport he even swore off Photoshop and tries to learn to like Gimp.

I haven't used GIMP in a while but I had great experience with Krita, even with my display tablet it all "just worked".

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by everdrive »

thrdbndndn wrote: post #5

I've probably said this a bunch of times already, but based on my past experience, any analysis built on month-to-month changes in the Steam Hardware Survey should be taken with a very large grain of salt, if not considered outright useless for any serious conclusions. The clue is already in the article itself. The author notes that "part of the jump at least appears to be explained by Valve correcting again the Stea…

Really happy to see this kind of analysis on HN. The news you want to hear the most must also be looked at critically, and as much as I love Linux gaming we want to be sober in our expectations.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by ehnto »

alex_duf wrote: post #193
mikkupikku wrote: post #160

Pewdiepie becoming an arch-pilled rice-maxxer who advocates Linux for freedom and gaming has surely had some effect. He's such a good sport he even swore off Photoshop and tries to learn to like Gimp.

Or maybe Microsoft continuously degrading their user's experiences has finally reached a breaking point, to the point where Pewdipie AND Linus Tech Tips are talking more seriously about linux. So yeah Pewdiepie is part of it, but I honestly think that's only because Microsoft has done such a poor job at maintaining their operating system.

If I am reading the room right, I think Wine/Proton/Steam making gaming almost effortless on linux has been the big swing. It was not like this 5 years ago.

I have been a linux user for work for a decade, but still ran Windows for a gaming PC. But with Win11 dropping the ball so hard, and the general hype around Proton and where linux gaming was it, it was not hard to make the decision to switch.

I haven't regretted it a single bit.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by deafpolygon »

petu wrote: post #213
deafpolygon wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

More like, how does gyro help you play some games?

With controller sticks you control the 3D camera only indirectly -- by telling the rotation velocity (in very limited range) and for how long to apply it. With gyro you have 1:1 proportional camera position input, like with mice. It's more or less about possibility of developing muscle memory. With (linear) gyro/mice you could sharply snap camera to a point you see on screen without much overshoot. You could turn 180…

I have found that you have to keep it centered in order to keep it from moving/registering input, so it worked very similarly to an analog stick to me. Am I mistaken?

I guess I just need to try it some more.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by sandworm101 »

Question: What percentage of windows gamers are actually Linux gamers who are using wine/proton or some anti-cheat workaround/VM that causes them to be reported as using windows when they are in fact running linux?

Using proton, I regularly see crash reports where games want to report that I was running some version of windows, which is a result of how proton implements wine. I never send such reports as they are of little use to developers.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by pgwalsh »

mikkupikku wrote: post #160

Pewdiepie becoming an arch-pilled rice-maxxer who advocates Linux for freedom and gaming has surely had some effect. He's such a good sport he even swore off Photoshop and tries to learn to like Gimp.

If you're coming from photoshop then PhotoGIMP is a good patch for gimp. I never understood why GIMP just didn't take this approach to begin with or at least make it a built in option.

Re: Steam on Linux Use Skyrocketed Above 5% in March

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Post by mancerayder »

sonzohan wrote: post #4

When Windows 11 was force-installed on my main game development desktop, I was skeptical, but kept using it. I was annoyed at having to turn off all the tracking and noise (like news articles) When it updated and started shoving AI down my throat, with no easy way to turn it off and suddenly lots of data I don't consent to sharing getting used, 11 became the last Windows OS I'll ever use. Whenever the next version co…

That matches my experience almost exactly. I was hanging onto Windows almost entirely due to cutting edge graphics and my Nvidia card on my desktop that I'd built.

Windows 10 was already pretty bad, but it felt fast and stable. I think they started putting content in the start menu, and I think I did regedit stuff I can no longer remember to get rid of it.

Windows 11 they made us upgrade with a gun to the back of our heads, they made it feel sluggish, they hid settings in such a way that you're expected to use Search to find the setting (although Apple has that issue too), and somehow the Search wants to include the whole Internet instead of what's local.

But the AI agentic force-feeding was the last straw. What am I, at work?

And then HN insisted Linux gaming was ready and they were right! Someone wrote to me in a comment, "join us, brother" and I'm glad I did, it's brought joy back to using my machine and playing around again.

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