Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Schedule tasks on the web

code.claude.com

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

231–240 of 261 posts

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#231

Post by jFriedensreich »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #223
jFriedensreich wrote: post #214

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is very different to a framework, language or IDE. More comparable to apple or amazon trying to create corporate anti competitive hellscapes of enslaved users that have no agency, no dignity and no real choice, reduced to rent extraction targets. Just with much more dire consequences and much more at stake. We still have the power to make ai providers have no moat and be interchangeable commodity. But we have to…

From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war. In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed. If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit peop…

Your "outside perspective" is interesting because I now feel a total disconnect to both worlds: on one side the clawcels with open source but atrocious and insecure setups that feel like NFT bros in the crypto token time, on the other side brainwashed corpo slaves that take anthropic and openai at face value like the iOS apple slaves in the mobile revolution that gave us walled gardens for billions of people without access to general purpose and non appliance computing. My own corner of the boxing ring is a minority with user agency, indie web, local first ideals. We just try to survive and defend the things we have from being taken from us until local models are good enough to build truly independently.

Do you not see this at all and this sounds all crazy to you?

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#232

Post by sillysaurusx »

jFriedensreich wrote: post #231
sillysaurusx wrote: post #223

Earlier quoted context omitted.

From an outside perspective, this sounds hyperbolic. I don’t know why task scheduling would be a part of a war. In fact, I re-read the article before submitting this comment just to make sure I wasn’t missing something. What on earth is so polarizing about a prompt being run recurrently? It’s a long-awaited feature that I’ve personally needed. If you want to win your war, you’ll need better propaganda to recruit peop…

Your "outside perspective" is interesting because I now feel a total disconnect to both worlds: on one side the clawcels with open source but atrocious and insecure setups that feel like NFT bros in the crypto token time, on the other side brainwashed corpo slaves that take anthropic and openai at face value like the iOS apple slaves in the mobile revolution that gave us walled gardens for billions of people without…

I do! For what it’s worth, I support open models and fighting against losing control of them to companies.

It’s also undeniable that Claude is very, very good. I hope that kind of quality comes to open source models. Lots of people have said they’re happy with the experiences they’ve had.

Personally, a middle ground seems like a nice compromise. Use both when it suits you. I don’t view it as a war, but as an inevitable evolution due to the amount of money being poured into the ecosystem.

The thing is, I would be behind you if there was a concrete alternative. Is there? Because one way or another, consumers will want this kind of quality that Claude is providing.

Either way, I didn’t mean to discourage you, only to ground you. Framing things as a war for our freedom is fine, but ultimately the freedom side has to be able to provide the same features as the corporation side. So where are they? “I use X instead of Y” is the best defense against vendor lock in.

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#233

Post by jwpapi »

jwpapi wrote: post #120
nickandbro wrote: post #4

I feel like we are just inching closer and closer to a world where rapid iteration of software will be by default. Like for example a trusted user makes feedback -> feedback gets curated into a ticket by an AI agent, then turned into a PR by an Agent, then reviewed by an Agent, before being deployed by an Agent. We are maybe one or two steps from the flywheel being completed. Or maybe we are already there.

I just don’t see it coming. I was full on that camp 3 months ago, but I just realize every step makes more mistakes. It leads into a deadlock and when no human has the mental model anymore. Don’t you guys have hard business problems where AI just cant solve it or just very slowly and it’s presenting you 17 ideas till it found the right one. I’m using the most expensive models. I think the nature of AI might block tha…

Wow so many replies.

I think it goes down in two camps. AI is improving on these issues and people countering.

I don’t know for sure, but to me it seems the last 2 years weren’t necessarily 'intelligence' improvements but post-training improvement and tool connections, also reduced censorship.

I’m know using less AI than ever and I’ve been burning 1000USD/month before Claude Code. I have a couple of really fundamental functions built that help me to solve a big chunk of specific problems I can built a lot on that. Adding functionality became easier not more complicated.

I would think for these business problems that I’m facing AI is less than 30% of the time right. For example deciding on how to setup databases for max efficiency how to write efficient queries. Everything that in the end is really moat to you compared to your vibe coded competitors.

From my personal experience I’ve seen a lot of vibe-cded companies stuck and barely adding nec functionality or features and my guess is that they don’t trust changes anymore.

So even if AI would be as good as a really good coder one thing would still be missing a person that is knowing exactly what is happening.

And I mean okay it might be writing a form real quick. But a modern form needs to do a lot of things and if you have established patterns for all kind of inputs, the implementation is mundane.

It’s like when you learn coding, type it yourself to learn. So if you can’t scale the AI only codebase at one point you have to learn it, and I argue right now most efficient way is to write in it.

And I’m also arguing that it’s really tough to get a software so good that it’s actually an asset on the market vibe-coded only. It seems like its more of a drug for wannapreneurs than it is actually building an asset.

Like it builds you a Netflix clone, but what you see is barely the code you need to write a Netflix competitor.

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#234

Post by girvo »

saratogacx wrote: post #210
girvo wrote: post #107

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Funnily, Anthropic's pricing etc. why I'm using GLM-5 a bunch more outside of work. Definitely not Opus level, but surprisingly decent. Though I got lucky and got the Alibaba Coding Model lite plan, which is so cheap they got rid of it

I've been doing something similar. I use Claude for analysis and non-coding work, GLM for most coding tasks (GLM's coding plan) and when I need to do a larger implementation project I use GLM&Claude to build out an in depth plan and toss it to Github Copilot to Opus the implementation. I was trying to get The alibaba plan but missed the mark. I'm curious to try out the Minimax coding plan (#10/mo) or Kimi ($20/mo) at…

MiniMax 2.7 through their lowest plan is quite impressive too! I’ve not tried the Kimi ones yet

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#236

Post by jFriedensreich »

sillysaurusx wrote: post #232
jFriedensreich wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your "outside perspective" is interesting because I now feel a total disconnect to both worlds: on one side the clawcels with open source but atrocious and insecure setups that feel like NFT bros in the crypto token time, on the other side brainwashed corpo slaves that take anthropic and openai at face value like the iOS apple slaves in the mobile revolution that gave us walled gardens for billions of people without…

I do! For what it’s worth, I support open models and fighting against losing control of them to companies. It’s also undeniable that Claude is very, very good. I hope that kind of quality comes to open source models. Lots of people have said they’re happy with the experiences they’ve had. Personally, a middle ground seems like a nice compromise. Use both when it suits you. I don’t view it as a war, but as an inevitab…

I am not sure what you mean with "Claude". We have to really differentiate between the models and the tools! Claude Code (Which is just the crappy CLI/TUI, not the models as people seem to think now), Claude Webapp, whatever product these workflow engines are part of and Claude Desktop app are what i am fighting against. Opus, Haiku and Sonnet are great models that i use all the time and that have few alternatives in their sweet spot, at least not yet! You can use opencode with these models and get similar or better result with the difference that whatever you build, you can own, the model is pluggable commodity.

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#237

Post by sillysaurusx »

jFriedensreich wrote: post #236
sillysaurusx wrote: post #232

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I do! For what it’s worth, I support open models and fighting against losing control of them to companies. It’s also undeniable that Claude is very, very good. I hope that kind of quality comes to open source models. Lots of people have said they’re happy with the experiences they’ve had. Personally, a middle ground seems like a nice compromise. Use both when it suits you. I don’t view it as a war, but as an inevitab…

I am not sure what you mean with "Claude". We have to really differentiate between the models and the tools! Claude Code (Which is just the crappy CLI/TUI, not the models as people seem to think now), Claude Webapp, whatever product these workflow engines are part of and Claude Desktop app are what i am fighting against. Opus, Haiku and Sonnet are great models that i use all the time and that have few alternatives in…

That’s a solid pitch. Whenever you’re fighting against the various Claudes, definitely let people know they can use those models locally. Ideally with some instructions on how to get started. That’ll get a lot more converts than morality alone. Me, for example.

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#238

Post by theshrike79 »

simianwords wrote: post #50

I remember when I tried to set something up with the ChatGPT equivalent like "notify me only if there are traffic disruptions in my route every morning at 8am" and it would notify me every morning even if there was no disruption.

Agents run tools in a loop.

Yes, you can give the Big Brain Thing a vague task and expect results, some times it'll do it right

But if you want repeatability, give it tools to determine what is a "disruption".

I have this exact system running on a WhateverClaw with a few simple tools: weather, train time tables (I commute via train) and a read-only version of my "will I be at the office or remote today" -calendar via a tool. Oh and a tool to notify me via Telegram.

It gets this information using the given tools and determines if it's worth notifying me.

TBH this doesn't need a "claw", I could just run the tools in cron, construct a prompt with that data and run any LLM on it.

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#239

Post by theshrike79 »

beefsack wrote: post #79
monkeydust wrote: post #64

I do feel people will end up using this for things where a deterministic rule could be used - more effective, faster and cheaper. See this starting to happen at work...'We need AI to solve X....no you don't"

I feel this would be more useful for tasks like "Check website X to see if there are any great deals today". Specifically, tasks that are loosely defined and require some form of intuition.

And even in that case if you give the agent a tool to access website X efficiently it'll work a lot better. Like, say, a CLI tool that can take a website product URL for that specific site and return the opengraph data of the item price on it + any sale price.

Re: Schedule tasks on the web

#240

Post by theshrike79 »

maccard wrote: post #161
NuclearPM wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

0 7 * * 1-5 ANTHROPIC_API_KEY=sk-... /path/to/claude-cron.sh /path/to/repo >> ~/claude-reports.md 2>&1 Seems trivial.

Sure, now what happens if my laptop is asleep at 7am? Or if our scheduled build took an extra 30 minutes because of contention?

This is when you go buy a Mac Mini just to run the Claude cron job :)
Post reply on HN