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Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by donkeybeer »

dotancohen wrote: post #229
donkeybeer wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Words are violence!!! Chanting for death to any country or religion is not violence dude. Until and actually Iran launches an attack on the USA. Iran didn't start this war, America and Israel did, while right in the middle of a pretend negotiation with them. I believe this is a strong sign that any time Israel or America are asking to negotiate with any country, they should prepare a full scale military action ready…

You are correct, words are not violence. Arming the Huthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, and various Iraqi militias _is_ violence. When an aggressor with a history of violence says that they are coming for you next, it is prudent to believe them. Iran has been chanting Death To America and Death To Israel for decades. They have been attacking Israel and are developing technology to attack the United States. It is the United Sta…

Iran is violent...to its own people yes. If we want to play the proxy game then there is an unending list of proxies used by the USA all over the world to commit terrorism and war. Then by that the USA and Israel should be nuked multiple times over in proportion with the extreme level of proxy violence they commit. Since you haven't said this about the USA, then I will have no choice but to say you are lying about Iran and applying a different standard.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by donkeybeer »

dotancohen wrote: post #229
donkeybeer wrote: post #217

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Words are violence!!! Chanting for death to any country or religion is not violence dude. Until and actually Iran launches an attack on the USA. Iran didn't start this war, America and Israel did, while right in the middle of a pretend negotiation with them. I believe this is a strong sign that any time Israel or America are asking to negotiate with any country, they should prepare a full scale military action ready…

You are correct, words are not violence. Arming the Huthis, Hezbollah, Hamas, and various Iraqi militias _is_ violence. When an aggressor with a history of violence says that they are coming for you next, it is prudent to believe them. Iran has been chanting Death To America and Death To Israel for decades. They have been attacking Israel and are developing technology to attack the United States. It is the United Sta…

Most importantly, Iran has always complied with audits to its nuclear program. I would much more urgently worry about the only country in the middle east that lies about having nukes, refuses to get them audited and continually starts wars with anyone and everyone, and proclaims everything under the sun as "antisemitism" and then gins up military action against supposed "antisemites" whenever it can. Hundreds of illegal nukes in the hands of such a volatile entity are grounds for immense world wide existential concern.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by vkou »

nandomrumber wrote: post #75
beloch wrote: post #32

The U.S. government shutdown has halted pay to the TSA, but not ICE, so ICE is taking over from the TSA in airports[1]. If you fly to the U.S., starting Monday apparently, the first think you're likely to see is masked gunmen giving you the eye. No thankyou. [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cede0qyvqz3o

Would anyone argue that the TSA, Theatre Security Agency, shouldn’t be defunded?

It shouldn't be defunded, because as stupid as it and the 2001 politics that spawned it were, anything MAGA will replace it with in 2026 would be way worse.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by keybored »

JPKab wrote: post #105
jghn wrote: post #87

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I honestly thought you were talking about the US in your first paragraph.

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The kind of whacky religiousness that you find in the US matters because of foreign policy, among other things. (There are also domestic things like right to abortion.) The US ambassador to Israel is a Zionist that talks about the Bible with Tucker Carlson as if should have any policy weight, because he believes so. There are other (Republican) politicians that say something like the US having a Biblical responsibility to support Israel.

> The narcissism of small differences on full display here.

And what is your pose, here? The selfishness of implicitly dismissing the foreign policy implications of American religious n*jobs because you don’t live in the affected countries?

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by vkou »

tombert wrote: post #85

What the fuck was even the intended purpose of starting this war in Iran? Like in their mind, what was the best case scenario?

1. Distracting from domEstic ProblemS. StarTing a rEgIoNal war is an effective way to do that.

2. Kidnapping Maduro made the rest of Venezuela's government roll over and play fetch, they are stupid enough to believe it would have worked again.

3. Israel says jump, GOP asks 'how high'?

4. There are no negative consequences to them killing people, driving the country into ruinous debt, or blowing up the American economy through higher energy prices. The drawbacks simply don't exist.

It's all upshot, zero downshot.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by disqard »

daheza wrote: post #174
jazzpush2 wrote: post #14

Has there been any official WH note on the need for this war, yet? Or objectives?

They rebranded to the department of war but its not a war. We definitely don't want war, but we want all soldiers to be warriors. Still not warmongering.

Excuse me, it's an "excursion", not a war.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by genthree »

kylehotchkiss wrote: post #36
bdangubic wrote: post #20

I got jumped in Italy couple of weeks ago. I was wearing a "volleyball dad" hoodie my kid bought for me but did not realize that the "volleyball dad" is etched in the middle of a large American flag covering my entire back. Luckily (for him, not me :) ) three police officers were 10 meters away walking the area dealing with apre ski drunks and restrained him. fun times

oof I would not wear an American flag outside the country. We've hurt too many feelings. Like any good American though, a Canadian flag works.

I find avoiding legible and most "graphic" clothing, period, works great.

Plus it usually looks better.

Not sure why you need any flag on you.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by vkou »

dotancohen wrote: post #109
tombert wrote: post #85

What the fuck was even the intended purpose of starting this war in Iran? Like in their mind, what was the best case scenario?

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Should nuclear weapons be kept out of the hands of people who threaten neighbouring and allied countries with military force? Who threaten distant countries with destruction if they don't comply with their demands, which change every day? Who have a support base that makes up 30%+ of the country, and chants absolutely insane shit at their rallies?

By any rational, third-party standard, such a country should not have nuclear weapons.

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by bdangubic »

terminalshort wrote: post #150
bdangubic wrote: post #20

I got jumped in Italy couple of weeks ago. I was wearing a "volleyball dad" hoodie my kid bought for me but did not realize that the "volleyball dad" is etched in the middle of a large American flag covering my entire back. Luckily (for him, not me :) ) three police officers were 10 meters away walking the area dealing with apre ski drunks and restrained him. fun times

Didn't happen

yes, this is exactly the kind of story one would be dreaming up to share, I think if one was to make up a non-existent story one would come up with a lot more "interesting" one that this one :)

Re: Department of State advises Americans worldwide to exercise increased caution

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Post by fakedang »

goosejuice wrote: post #178
fakedang wrote: post #155

Earlier quoted context omitted.

25-33% of the electorate is no small fraction. There's a group of people who have been consistently supportive of this government's policies since 2016. Take any policy survey, and the fraction that supports the right-wing side of action always amounts to a consistent 25-33% of the votes.

You're going to have to define extreme right with those percentages. You think 25-33% of the electorate is extreme right?

Definitely MAGA, even if not violently far right.
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