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The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shirts than records'

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Re: The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shirts than records'

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I guess they are technically not middle men because they sit one the start of the value chain, but the company making the t-shirts, the one selling it and the one printing on it are still making good profits. On top of the actual costs of making those printed t-shirts. I imagine it's not hugely expensive at the volumes bands need, somewhere from $3-10 per t-shirt depending on quality, and maybe double that for hoodie…

well, now you're getting needlessly pedantic in a way that just makes me wonder why would someone do that. seriously, nobody expects that a band is weaving fabric by hand to cut into patterns to sew into shirts. everyone here understands that you have to buy the shirts at your expense to sale at a mark up that earns profit. what a ridiculous thing to argue

Alternative framing that sounds less pedantic: Nobody was complaining about middlemen in the first place. The argument you responded to was "I don't need to support the white box oem mug manufacturer". Meanwhile you were talking about the opposite end of the value chain, which in no way refutes any of the complaints made.

More importantly you were also missing the point. The issue is how much of the $20 you pay end up in the hands of the band. Where in the value chain that money is spent doesn't matter. What matters is how much is spent on delivering the t-shirt to my doorstep and how much is in the band's bank account

Re: The truth that haunts the Ramones: 'They sold more T-shirts than records'

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Friend probably still sleeping

Yup. Happily retired. Anyway, he would have been one of the folks signing the checks. If he says something interesting, I might report it back. He sometimes just blows sunshine up my ass, but he's certainly one for interesting stories. Worked with some of the most deplorable narcissists in history, and hardly ever has a bad thing to say about any of them. I can see how he did so well. They probably loved working with…

Just to report.

He told me that they got paid plenty of money, but their T-shirt sales were enormous. He said they still sell like hotcakes. Apparently, Nirvana has also done well in that department.

Of course, I can't speak for the general health of each band. They made money, but I'm not sure how well things worked out for them... I don’t think there’s any Ramones, left.

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