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Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin »

swed420 wrote: post #220
mountainriver wrote: post #173

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Weed is great for my anger and sleep. I’ve never found as good of a sleep medicine for someone who wakes up too early. I also had debilitating anger in my teens and weed really helped calm that down. I’ve been off it for years at a time and I still can’t get past my anger without it. That said my memory is shit

I found it used to disrupt my ability to fall asleep, and I didn't dream, or at least didn't remember doing so. It also impacted my memory when awake, which makes sense if it was messing with my sleep cycles. However, I was able to fix all of those problems by consistently ceasing use 4 hours prior to going to sleep.

Emphasizing this for anyone that reads it. Ceasing use 4 hours prior to going to sleep really helps - and yes, you can “use it for sleep” that many hours before and still be in a more sleep ready State than otherwise.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by bitxbitxbitcoin »

econ wrote: post #98

Not entirely on topic: If pot is illegal people will grow extremely potent variaties. If it's normal you get very tasty variaties that give a mild buzz even if you smoke pure joints all day. It's like comparing a casual light beer with the 90% moonshine or 45% bathtub gin sold during prohibition.

I think it is very on topic!

For people using cannabis as medicine in both legal and illegal markets, the trend to buy higher THC potency products is all about stretching their medicine with their limited budget.

To continue your analogy, it’d be like buying 90% moonshine, diluting it 20:1, and then drinking it as a mixed drink the same potency as a casual light beer.

Of course, if only 90% moonshine is available, cuz of Prohibition or Post-Prohibition, then you’re going to have more people “binging” as opposed to “budgeting.”

The THC percentage variation in different varieties varies from say 0-35%. The better analogy for prohibition’s effects are for the explosion in concentrated forms like hash oil specifically. That is the same prohibition pressure that turned opium into heroin.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by cluckindan »

varispeed wrote: post #137
cluckindan wrote: post #95

”The findings are based on a systematic review and meta-analysis of 54 randomized controlled trials (RCTs) conducted worldwide over a 45 year period (1980-2025).” This review seems dubious considering the huge gap in motivations and scientific rigor between 1980 and 2025.

That's classic with most cannabis studies. They sound like they started with a conclusion and then worked their way back fitting the data.

It would be easy, too. Find all studies on the subject, find correlations between some parameters and the results you want/don’t want, add those parameters in your inclusion/exclusion criteria.

Who even replicates review articles?

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by DANmode »

mikkupikku wrote: post #215
DANmode wrote: post #115

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Acetaminophen blunts the parasympathetic nervous system…what do you think cocaine could be capable of?

Tylenol causes depression, got it. Advise to take seriously.

You don’t need to put words into my mouth to justify using coke, it’s fine.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by b-star »

mountainriver wrote: post #173
01100011 wrote: post #171

As a middle aged guy who has used pot on and off for decades and no longer really enjoys the high, I'll say weed is good for two things: Old man joint pains. Not headaches, broken bones, etc. But it nearly erases achy joint pain for me. Being angry. I am much less angry in general when I'm smoking a bit every couple of days. That said, when I take a break I feel like my testosterone goes through the roof. I get more…

Weed is great for my anger and sleep. I’ve never found as good of a sleep medicine for someone who wakes up too early. I also had debilitating anger in my teens and weed really helped calm that down. I’ve been off it for years at a time and I still can’t get past my anger without it. That said my memory is shit

Agree. For different reasons, I cut THC a week ago after taking it before bed for years. This whole week my sleep was horrible. I’d fall asleep fine but wake up around 4 and not able to fall back asleep. Until someone recommended tart cherry juice. After two days of having it, I’m falling back asleep fine and having a great quality sleep. Try it out. YMMV.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by swed420 »

bitxbitxbitcoin wrote: post #231
swed420 wrote: post #220

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found it used to disrupt my ability to fall asleep, and I didn't dream, or at least didn't remember doing so. It also impacted my memory when awake, which makes sense if it was messing with my sleep cycles. However, I was able to fix all of those problems by consistently ceasing use 4 hours prior to going to sleep.

Emphasizing this for anyone that reads it. Ceasing use 4 hours prior to going to sleep really helps - and yes, you can “use it for sleep” that many hours before and still be in a more sleep ready State than otherwise.

Definitely, thanks for this.

Anyone reading this far looking to optimize sleep, don't forget the basics of consistent schedules/meals and regular exercise. Personally, I can't exercise or eat too close to bed, as it keeps me awake. If you have the flexibility to wake without an alarm, that can be good as well to prevent sleep cycle intrusion. Stay away from blue wavelengths of light as bedtime approaches (use redshift/f.lux/etc on screens).

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Post by quietsegfault »

j45 wrote: post #112
anewcolor wrote: post #105

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we don't understand the brain well enough for images to be of any use. amen is a fraud.

Would love to learn more about how this is the case (both assertions). Mind sharing? Neuroscience seems to be coming through with more and more understanding using technologies like fMRI and others the past 5-10 years. There is definitely some understanding there.

fMRI just measures the BOLD signal (blood oxygenation). It's a proxy for neural activity, meaning any conclusions drawn from it are inferences, not direct observations of the brain 'thinking'.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by quietsegfault »

Kon5ole wrote: post #118
cj wrote: post #81

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I think it became socially acceptable because there’s not a huge reason to hate on it. The risks to cognition and health exist, but they’re no where near as bad as alcohol or cigarettes (and the negative effects basically don’t exist at low, even moderate doses) The biggest negative effect of using weed regularly is it seems to slowly kill people’s motivation to do stuff over time. It will turn just about anyone into…

>I think it became socially acceptable because there’s not a huge reason to hate on it. That may be but I see no reason to encourage it either, which is what I feel is happening.

Where are you seeing it be encouraged any more than other harmful things? My US state despite legalizing has a lot of programs to tell people not to use it.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by Schmerika »

epolanski wrote: post #101
psyclobe wrote: post #93

It certainly helps with boredom but quickly losses it's effect after repeated use. I am calling it quits for now it's been making m a little crazy and I want to see what life is like without it for a while.

It's way better trust me. Only smoke when at parties and in company. Alone smoking is terrible. You enjoy the first, then you know very well how you feel the following ones. Only the bad effects of being lazy, tired, sleepy, none of the pros.

> Alone smoking is terrible. You enjoy the first, then you know very well how you feel the following ones.

> Only the bad effects of being lazy, tired, sleepy, none of the pros.

... You are allowed to stop at one you know.

Re: Study finds no evidence cannabis helps anxiety, depression, or PTSD

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Post by j45 »

quietsegfault wrote: post #237
j45 wrote: post #112

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Would love to learn more about how this is the case (both assertions). Mind sharing? Neuroscience seems to be coming through with more and more understanding using technologies like fMRI and others the past 5-10 years. There is definitely some understanding there.

fMRI just measures the BOLD signal (blood oxygenation). It's a proxy for neural activity, meaning any conclusions drawn from it are inferences, not direct observations of the brain 'thinking'.

fMRI can be relevant for TBI.

Technologies like qEEG also seem to have some applicable uses.

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