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Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by lesuorac »

sheiyei wrote: post #135
lesuorac wrote: post #122

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Getting pedantic now but depending on the circumstances the traffic is supposed to have stopped for you. Assuming there is no paint on the road an (unmarked) crosswalk may still exist [1] and drivers are supposed to yield to a pedestrian in a marked or unmarked crosswalk [2]. [1]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio... . [2]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

Getting pedantic here, "no light / crosswalk" means no crosswalk, painted or not.

Except it doesn't.

Legally there is a crosswalk regardless of if it's painted or not see [1]. I get this wasn't on the drivers test but it's still in the law.

There were some complaints about not everybody living in California. It's a law in your state too; I'm not going to find it for you.

[1]: https://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySectio...

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by jghn »

tzs wrote: post #220
lostlogin wrote: post #82

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Phone makers deleted the speaker is the ‘courage’ I want.

Speaker phone is probably necessary nowadays since many people only have a smartphone. With the old phones you could reasonably tilt your head and raise your shoulder to hold the handset in place so you could do something that required two hands while talking/listening, like looking up something in a book or taking notes. Smartphones are smaller than the old handsets and much flatter. I can pinch mine between my shou…

Can't you just hold it with your hand?

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by [deleted] »

andy99 wrote: post #195
mothballed wrote: post #157

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Usually they have been called out on it a time or two. They are often signaling that if you want to stop them, you'll have to use violence, and look -- no one or almost no one is willing to do that. There are a couple of us who have actually seen someone call them out that are warning folks here what commonly happens. I saw someone get attacked with a knife, another commenter here had a gun pulled on him when they as…

> I saw someone get attacked with a knife, another commenter here had a gun pulled on him I though the discussion here was about people not using their headphones on airplanes.

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by nunez »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

Big time!

I fly every week. There's always ONE F**ING GUY who needs to have Instagram or TikTok going at full blast.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by [deleted] »

wanderingstan wrote: post #95
mikkupikku wrote: post #34

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In America, a small number of people derive pleasure from being disruptive to everybody, and blasting music on public transit with captive audiences is a very "traditional" way of fucking with people and expressing your broad contempt for their society. I'd estimate that maybe one in five times you get on a city bus in America, you'll encounter somebody like this. Very rarely does anybody call them out or otherwise t…

My go-to technique has been to offer the offender a pair of headphones, saying something to insinuate that they must forgotten theirs or be too poor to afford them. Most of the time they say “oh I have headphones!” and then realize that they’ve outed themselves. (I stockpile the free headphones from gyms or airplanes, or get the $2 ones from AliExpress)

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Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by mvdtnz »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

It's a problem everywhere. People on the golf course walk around with bluetooth speakers audible to players in front and behind. Mountain bikers play music audible to other trail users. Many people have absolutely no regard for others around them and this manifests through noise nuisance.

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Post by hysan »

pjmlp wrote: post #31

Is this really a thing?!? Blasting the others with unwanted noise. I never been in a flight, or train across Europe where passengers showed just lack of respect for the others. The only ones pumping anything loud, on trains or busses, usually get quickly pointed down by other passengers, personal or security. Ah, and then there are the rebellious kids or gangs, as the other exception, which usually don't take flights…

Yes, at least in my experience on flights in the USA. It’s very rare but it does happen. I was lucky one time that the person doing it sat next to me and I politely asked them to use headphones and no fuss was had.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by anigbrowl »

furyofantares wrote: post #27
cobbzilla wrote: post #10

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Have you ever tried to sleep while the person next to you watches a movie at full volume?

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It's not murder if they're guilty. Those planes come with doors for a reason.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by anigbrowl »

SOLAR_FIELDS wrote: post #208
vel0city wrote: post #175

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Are you seriously making the argument blasting music or a movie or whatever is an involuntary bodily function?

Yes. Because I'm asking the question who decides what is involuntary or not. Who is it? It seems like there is a presupposition here, but who is defining that? Coming back to the Tourette's example: let's say someone starts shouting cuss words and loudly annoying everyone else "involuntarily". Do they get kicked off the plane? Why or why not? Who decides that? Does the person have to present medical evidence that the…

I vote to throw you off the plane for disingenuous baitposting.

Re: Passengers who refuse to use headphones can now be kicked off United flights

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Post by tzs »

jghn wrote: post #232
tzs wrote: post #220

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Speaker phone is probably necessary nowadays since many people only have a smartphone. With the old phones you could reasonably tilt your head and raise your shoulder to hold the handset in place so you could do something that required two hands while talking/listening, like looking up something in a book or taking notes. Smartphones are smaller than the old handsets and much flatter. I can pinch mine between my shou…

Can't you just hold it with your hand?

Sometimes you need both hands for something else while on the phone.

Landline telephones mostly had handsets that looked like the top photo here [1]. When held with a hand they were positioned as shown in the second photo there.

Because of its thickness and length you only had to tilt your head and/or raise you should a little to hold it hands free with the speaker end right at the ear and the mic end still near the mouth.

If you were taking a call while standing for example and needed to write something down in a notebook that was no problem.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Handset

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