Is an aircraft carrier's location supposed to be secret? Pretty hard to hide from a satellite I'd imagine.
Le Monde making use of what's actually available to them in real time—is the story here.
that...wasn't nice
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#232Earlier quoted context omitted.
Maybe stupid question but how would Iran do it? They don’t have any ships in the area and also don’t have any satellites that could take pictures, right? Or does getting told by Russia count?
Yes, Russia helps Iran target our troops and (likely) sailors. But don't you dare suggest that hanging a portrait of Putin in the White House is inappropriate, or a Republican might get mad.
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#233I seriously doubt there is a country on earth which lacks the capability to detect an aircraft carrier's presence in the Mediterranean sea. We are not talking about stealth vehicles.
We couldn’t find a commercial jet (MH370). Both, while it was still flying in the air and after it was presumably lost in the ocean. They couldn’t track it in the air nor can they still find its remains after looking for it for so long. This problem is not trivial.
Different times. Now there are thousands of LEO satellites.
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Track not the ship itself but the planes that take off and land on it. Many sites will expose their paths, you'll see the planes circling in a pattern around "some void" - that's the ship.
Many sites? Can you show me any De Gaulle aircraft currently in-flight?
You can find yesterday's location easily on flightradar24.com. Try it it will make you feel like an ossint sleuth or something. Look to the south of Cyprus.
Now that's not realtime because I'm telling you after the fact. But if you were paid to do it, of course, then you'd spend some money on an actual account on this and similar services, which would get you many more filters and much more precise data.
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#235Earlier quoted context omitted.
Generally, the one who causes the problem should fix it. Especially when the problem they caused is hurting their friends. It takes a really good friend to not only accept and forgive the hurt caused, but to help fix the problem, too. Usually an apology from the problem-causer must come first. I think what we're seeing is that the USA has un-good-friended so many countries that it has no good friends left with the mi…
there are no friends at the global scale just alliances. If Europe doesn't want to help then there's no forcing them to. Conversely, if the US manages to get the strait open and oil flowing there's no stopping them from requiring Europe to pay a little extra for the trouble. Fair or not, who's going to stop the other side? You can't exactly ask to speak to the manager.
If the USA manages to get the strait open and oil flowing, then allies might be satisfied with the harms the USA caused, even if there is no apology, much less restitution. At that point, we will be back to the status quo.
If, at that point, the USA perpetrates any sort of further economic attacks on allies, then of course they will respond appropriately.
Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app
#236Cruising speed of Charles de Gaulle is 27knots which would give the runner a pace of around 1:10mins/km depending on direction. That would really screw up your Strava stats
Reminds me of Fitbit using heartrate to approximately guess calories used. I'm told with a lengthy night on uppers can you can get your 24/hr burn up to the 7000-10000.
I was doing support for a fitness data aggregator where a partner reported an issue: a user logging 15k+ steps between 9pm and 4am with minimal location delta. Sadly I wasn't able to push a "stay hydrated" notification over our system to the user.
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#237This is a common problem across militaries. It is difficult to stop soldiers from leaking their location if they have access to mobile phones and the Internet. Individual cases are usually a combination of naïveté, ignorance, and an unwillingness to be inconvenienced. It still happens in Ukraine, where immediate risk to life and limb is much more severe than this case.
There was fitness tracker that posted locations without user names. Well, wouldn't you know, in Iraq there were all these square paths on the map. Yes, it was Americans jogging just inside the perimeter of small bases. Just like with the aircraft carrier, these bases were not secret but it shows how locations can leak unexpectedly.
It was FitBit and they got banned all over govt services because of it.
https://www.militarytimes.com/news/your-military/2018/08/06/...
Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app
#238Is an aircraft carrier's location supposed to be secret? Pretty hard to hide from a satellite I'd imagine.
If I had to guess, which I do, I'd say that it's not a big deal that an adversary capable of threatening an aircraft carrier knows where it generally is. What is a big deal is knowing precisely where it is when an undetected projectile needs pinpoint accuracy moments before blowing a big hole in it.
Re: France's aircraft carrier located in real time by Le Monde through fitness app
#239This is a common problem across militaries. It is difficult to stop soldiers from leaking their location if they have access to mobile phones and the Internet. Individual cases are usually a combination of naïveté, ignorance, and an unwillingness to be inconvenienced. It still happens in Ukraine, where immediate risk to life and limb is much more severe than this case.
There was fitness tracker that posted locations without user names. Well, wouldn't you know, in Iraq there were all these square paths on the map. Yes, it was Americans jogging just inside the perimeter of small bases. Just like with the aircraft carrier, these bases were not secret but it shows how locations can leak unexpectedly.
It was also Strava, and it showed "popular running routes"
Example post https://www.reddit.com/r/running/comments/7tnzxy/stravas_hea...
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#240Earlier quoted context omitted.
You don't even need a free account on flightradar24 to track its planes, at least two launch from it and pattern circle around it almost daily.
That relies on transponders which can be switched of if decision is taken to do so.
Sure, and they don't decide to do that in many cases.